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To: aMorePerfectUnion

O.K., that’s a creed you believe. Do you believe the Nicene & Athanasian creeds? I’m trying to gauge where your some of your beliefs derive.


1,410 posted on 06/30/2007 9:04:49 AM PDT by Reno232
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To: Reno232

Reno911,

I think I have been abundantly clear with sharing
my personal experience and through the basis of
our discussions here that my beliefs derive directly
from the Bible - the 66 Books we see wrapped in
leather. The basis of my belief and my faith do
not derive from a historical creed. However, if it
does anything for your understanding, I agree with
the statements of the historic Church creeds, having
found them to represent that which is revealed in
scripture.

Do you know what a creed is, btw?

creed [Lat. credo=I believe], summary of basic doctrines of faith.

They are simply a summary of what the Church Universal believes, based on the Bible.

The historic creeds, starting with those in scipture, like
that I posted above, and the early Apostle’s Creed and
on are summaries of what the Bible teaches. Historically,
they grew more specific in the face of heresy and doctrinal
errors - such as those that made the same doctrinal errors
as mormonism. Amazingly, I know of no other cult that includes
as many separate heresies that the Church already condemned,
than mormonism. It must hold the record...

best,
ampu

PS - as a personal aside to you Reno, I have always been
amused that there is criticism of the date of the Nicean
Creed, since that is exactly the point in history that
certain heresies were troubling the Church... yet mormonism,
is a created religion dating from ~1830! Mormonism strains
at the relatively early dated gnat of the Church Creeds and
swallows the camel of a late blooming cult! :-)

Are you familiar with the historical time of the rise of
mormonism in America (along with Jehovah’s Witnesses and
Christian Science)? Are you familiar with the religious
influences in the region of the US that Joseph Smith grew
up with? Once you see those, you realize where he got many
of the ideas of “restoration”, etc.


1,411 posted on 06/30/2007 9:24:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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