Yet I think you’ll agree w/ me that many of the opinions set forth in those creeds (especially the Athanasian creed that gets much more specific about the Trinity)are absolutely nowhere to be found in the bible, anywhere!

Could you point these out; exactly?

1,721 posted on 07/02/2007 5:21:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I believe in God. So I am saved. What is your problem then?

Jesus NEVER said a WORD about homosexuality in the Bible!

I believe in God. I am SO saved. And my GOD loves me so!

What is your problem then?

--GayMormonDude

1,722 posted on 07/02/2007 5:28:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Saundra Duffy

You printed a chart proving to yourself that Mormons are not Christians.

Here is YOUR chance to show everyone reading this thread the TRUTH!!!

Merely take the chart that is WRONG, and put the CORRECT stuff in alongside the error so the WORLD can see the facts!

1,723 posted on 07/02/2007 5:31:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Saundra Duffy

Got a question for you, Mr. Elsie: What would Jesus do?

About WHAT??

I have been disrespected by better people than you. Ha!

We are used to it and we take it in stride. (evidently not!)

Matthew 23:15
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

Mark 7:26-27
26. The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
27. "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

Matthew 15:16
"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

1,724 posted on 07/02/2007 5:37:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I believe that.

Good; we do have some things in common.

1,725 posted on 07/02/2007 5:38:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Commenting on this issue only brightens the spotlight on whatever is being said about Mormon’s and the fact that he is one.

And NOT commenting on it would indicate that there is some topic that is off the table. Then folks would wonder... WHY?

1,726 posted on 07/02/2007 5:39:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Yes

Why?

They 'believe' that Jesus is Michael, the archangel, reincarnated.

Could an LDS member state this 'belief' in the Temple and still be considered a Mormon?

1,727 posted on 07/02/2007 5:42:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

He did not say they were not Christians, did he?

He didn't say they were aliens from Mars, either.

What does a person NOT saying anything have to do with ANY subject?

1,728 posted on 07/02/2007 5:44:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

So I am saved.

So it seems!!!

(As long as you believing in the right 'he'.)

1,729 posted on 07/02/2007 5:46:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Saundra Duffy

According to one source - http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible2.htm - there are over 100 different versions of the Bible.

And not ONE of them says that it is the ONLY 'version'!

Not ONE of them says, "Ooops... we have no originals to go back to."

Not ONE of them has had the publishers come out and say, "All them OTHER translations are wrong, Wrong, WRONG!"

Not one of them has ADDED volumes of disputed data to what is known as Scripture.

Insult my faith.

I think not. Your FAITH is very strong.

What's being 'insulted' here is your intelligence.

1,730 posted on 07/02/2007 5:50:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

In Acts 15, you’ll find that Peter, who was chosen as the Lord’s mouthpiece put the matter to rest after a discussion about the Holy Ghost.

I find it amazing you can refer to this chapter, and yet fail to see what it says!

1,731 posted on 07/02/2007 5:52:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

We have no part in Judgment Day, we'll already have been resurrected.

I think you are confused...

The first instance of the Book of Life is here:

Psalms 69:27-28
27. Charge them with crime upon crime; do not let them share in your salvation.
28. May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.

Next, Jesus says THIS to His discioples:

Luke 10:20
However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

In refering to BELIEVERS, Book of Life is further mentioned here:

Philippians 4:3
Yes, and I ask you, loyal yokefellow, help these women who have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.

Finally, John reveals the BoL here:

Revelation 3:5
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
Revelation 13:8
All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
Revelation 17:8
The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.

And now the judgement; of ALL mankind...

Revelation 20:11-15
11. Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
12. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
13. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
14. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
15. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Bottom line:

If you are 'saved' your name is IN THE BOOK, which is used to judge.

If, as you say, "We have no part in Judgment Day, we'll already have been resurrected.", then WHY is the BoL used at this judgement?

1,732 posted on 07/02/2007 6:11:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

You did tell me on this thread that you consider yourself “99% Catholic.”

Beats being 110% Christian!

1,733 posted on 07/02/2007 6:13:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

How much did Abraham give?

To WHOM?

Why?

1,734 posted on 07/02/2007 6:14:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

?We will already have been resurrected, so we're not "dead."

Unless you're one of the folks ALIVE when Christ returns, you're DEFINITELY gonna be DEAD!

1,735 posted on 07/02/2007 6:16:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

You can't give me a scripture because there isn't one.

Didn't he just AGREE with that?

1,736 posted on 07/02/2007 6:17:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Are YOU giving the LDS organization the FULL TITHE which it requires?

1,737 posted on 07/02/2007 6:18:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I venture to say that not one thing against any Christian or non Christian religion has been said by any LDS on any of these threads, but that doesn’t seem to register either.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/

  18 My object in going to ^ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.

  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all ^awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those ^bprofessors were all ^ccorrupt; that: “they ^ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ^ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the ^fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the ^gpower thereof.”

  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself ^alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, ^bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

No need to, for we get it straight from the horses mouth!!!

1,738 posted on 07/02/2007 6:21:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I have disagreements with both, so I am neither.

While I have agreements with each, so I am both!

1,739 posted on 07/02/2007 6:23:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

PROMTOING

Sounds like a pharse from an old BATMAN show on TV, after Robin boinks the Joker on the head!

1,740 posted on 07/02/2007 6:25:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

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