Posted on 06/23/2007 1:28:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
How do you know this?
So the sacred underwear and tithes are required to get into highest heaven.
What is the secret handshake for?
Is baptism and the reception of the Holy Ghost necessary to enter into the Kingdom of God?
Yes or No?
Do you take HIS word HERE?? I do!
John 6:28-30
28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
30. So they asked him, "What miraculous sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do?
If you have this much trouble reading three sentences, no wonder you are having a hard time with the Scriptures.
Sigh...
The thief on the cross did not LABOR...
You keep changing the question wording. Which wording is your final edition that you want answered?
Secret Handshakes = sacred Tokens.
Christ was sinless. He was also human. To the extent that things like becoming tired (see the story of the Samaritan woman at the well in John 3), to the extent that becoming tired is "imperfect," Christ was imperfect while in human form. He could have without even a snap of his fingers refreshed himself, except that to become man was his plan of salvation, not any other. I personally only view violating the will of God as "imperfect" in this sense. Sin.
So, I think the common view of Luke 22:42, take this cup from me if it be your will, paraphrased, is that the human side of Christ wishes not to feel the pain of torture and death at the hands of men and whatever impossible agony it is to have the sins of all men in his plan of salvation placed upon him and to recieve the punishment for them. Christ died for our sin, sinless himself. He allowed himself to be placed on the cross. He felt agony (which is not "perfect" in some superhero sense but is "perfect" within God's plan of salvation). He cried out in agony on the cross as well. To recieve salvation from Christ all you have to do is accept this sacrifice on your behalf and believe on Christ. He rose from the dead to give us witness and testimony that he was the messiah. Accept it and live. Nothing else is needed.
The "secret handshake" is a symbol of a covenant made with God. Keeping the covenant is what is essential, not the symbol.
Ok...
Every intelligent person under the heavens that does not, when informed, acknowledge that Joseph Smith, Jun., is a Prophet of God, is in darkness, and is opposed to us and to Jesus and his kingdom on the earth. What do you suppose I think of them? They cannot conceive their own degradation. If they could, they would turn away from their wickedness. I know them, but they do not know me. We live in an atmosphere they do not approach; they have not ability to see the path we walk in. Would I treat them as badly as they would treat us? No. They would murder us in a moment, if they had the power, unless we would renounce our religion. But they are trifling with their own existence, when they measure arms with the Almighty. All the day long we have extended to our enemies the hand of mercy and charity. We would offer to them life and salvation. What would they offer to us? Death and damnation, if they had the power; but they have not the power, and never will have.From the day that Joseph brought forth the records of the Book of Mormon, which he translated by the power of God, until the day of his death, they said that he was seeking to bring down the wrath of the Lamanites upon the whites. They have driven us among the Lamanites, whom they were continually trying to keep us from mingling with. Why did they do this? God had decreed that they should, and they could not help it; and they will keep teasing and worrying and contending and fighting with one another, until the prophecy be fulfilled concerning the sons of Jacob, who will rise up and go through among the Gentiles like a lion through the forest. And who can stand before them? No one. Jew and Gentile, hear it; you are bringing upon your heads the very things you are trying to avoid, like the Government of the United States, which is striving with all its might, and calling to its aid the best wisdom of the nation to preserve its existence. Everything they do divides them until they will be split asunder and shivered to pieces. So they would do with this work.They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work. He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon. He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood. As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun. Who has made this so? Have I? Have this people? Have the world? No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it. If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph. If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass. Can you pass without his inspection? No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times. In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet. They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent? They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they? No. We paid for lands in Missouri that the wicked now possess. The United States could rise up and say, “You Mormons, come back, and we will defend you in your rights.” But will they do this? No, but they will spend their millions to deprive us of our just rights. They might do a great many good things: they might forsake their meanness, if they had a mind to.
It is evident from its presentation or do you have proof otherwise. I thought not.
Are you implying that all we must do is believe in God to be saved?
You keep CHANGING the ‘question’!!
Many will say, on that day, “It is an official site for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints”, but, will that make it TRUE??
And still you do not answer the question.
Is baptism and the reception of the Holy Ghost necessary to enter into the Kingdom of God?
Yes or No?
That is the question. Answer it.
Then you've a VERSE to show this; right?
At least now you answer your OWN questions without waiting for input from me!
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