He's obviously talking out of his arse. I find it hard to believe that someone so "knowledgeable" about Serbian history doesn't know that Serbia's ties to the West go back some 900 years (The Crusades, 1096) and that most Serbian queens/tsarinas/princesses from the Mediaeval times were foreign-born (a solid indication of the developing political, economic & military ties and alliances).
Serbia was one of the most advanced, developed and powerful kingdoms in Europe for some 200 years (cca. 1160-1390), especially in the latter part, during the Emperor Dushan's reign (1330-1355).
Since Croatia had spent the entire 2nd millennium as a vassal of various foreign powers, it goes without saying that the country was "plugged into Europe" (whatever "Europe" meant prior to the 1800s). I just don't see how this can be portrayed as Croatia's achievement.
Banat, if you’re going to write in detail about what I said, you should probably ping me out of courtesy.
You wrote:
“He’s obviously talking out of his arse. I find it hard to believe that someone so “knowledgeable” about Serbian history doesn’t know that Serbia’s ties to the West go back some 900 years (The Crusades, 1096) and that most Serbian queens/tsarinas/princesses from the Mediaeval times were foreign-born (a solid indication of the developing political, economic & military ties and alliances).”
All true. And all irrelevant. I said Croatia was more plugged into Europe. I did not say Serbia had no relationship with Europe in 1096 or in “Mediaeval times”.
“Serbia was one of the most advanced, developed and powerful kingdoms in Europe for some 200 years (cca. 1160-1390), especially in the latter part, during the Emperor Dushan’s reign (1330-1355).”
Wonderful. Also irrelevant. Again, I never said Serbia didn’t have great medieval past. If you’re going to attack what I say (”He’s obviously talking out of his arse.”) then actually attck what I say rather than make up things I didn’t say. Is that too hard for you?
“Since Croatia had spent the entire 2nd millennium as a vassal of various foreign powers, it goes without saying that the country was “plugged into Europe” (whatever “Europe” meant prior to the 1800s). I just don’t see how this can be portrayed as Croatia’s achievement.”
I never portrayed that as Croatia’s achievement. I merely said it was the case and now you have admitted it. So, after all of your chest beating about the great, illustious and remote past greatness of Serbia, you admitted I was right anyway. If you knew I was right, and clearly you did, then why did you try to make it look like you were challenging what I said by throwing in a number of irrelevant points, distorting what I said and claiming I didn’t know what I was talking about?
Your own words confirmed you knew I was right: “...it goes without saying that the country was “plugged into Europe”..”
Thank you.