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Egypt Asks British Museum For Rosetta Stone
The Art Newspaper ^ | 6-21-2007 | Martin Bailey

Posted on 06/22/2007 2:33:41 PM PDT by blam

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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
" The people living in Egypt are blood descendants of the Pyramid builders. The religion and culture changed, not the people."

You are wrong. Some of the people of Egypt do have some descent from the ancient Egyptians of Pharaonic times, but most are not. The majority are descended from Arabs and other races. In fact entire nations in the Middle East have been replaced by other races of people who were not the original inhabitants of those nations.

21 posted on 06/22/2007 3:28:32 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: agarrett
Why don’t you just go the next step and say that everyone in the world is related through Adam and Eve? Why stop half way?
22 posted on 06/22/2007 3:30:44 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: blam
“I will give guarantees for their safe return,” he promised.

Dr Hawass warned last month that if the Berlin loan is refused, then “we will fight to bring back this bust for good”.

Taqiyya? Bundle of contradictions? Anti-truth, anti-freedom liar?

Threats are for weak people.

23 posted on 06/22/2007 3:35:15 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: fish hawk
Why don’t you just go the next step and say that everyone in the world is related through Adam and Eve? Why stop half way?

  Because that was not the question under discussion. You are asserting that everyone has a common ancestry. That if we search back far enough, we will find a common ancestor between a random person living in England today, and an Egyptian of 3,000 years ago.

  I am making the much stronger claim, that an Englishman chosen at random is directly descended from every pyramid builder whose blood line has not been extinguished.

  It takes about 1500-2000 years before we can make such a claim. But after that point, any person either has no descendants, or everyone on Earth is their descendant. And the pyramids are all older than 2000 years old, so I can make this particular claim with no particular doubts.

Drew Garrett

24 posted on 06/22/2007 3:35:31 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: fish hawk
Why don’t you just go the next step and say that everyone in the world is related through Adam and Eve? Why stop half way?

I guess that was the point of my previous post...but without shoving a sharp stick in his/her eye. LOL!
25 posted on 06/22/2007 3:37:32 PM PDT by mutley
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To: blam

And just how much monetary aid are we and the rest of the west paying Egypt to act reasonably like a civilized country?


26 posted on 06/22/2007 3:44:05 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; mutley; agarrett; fish hawk; StormEye

This is my YDNA (R1b) map and is the same as 90% of the Irish and 68% of all other Europeans.

See the 'spur' just above M45...those are the R2 line that boggied out to Asia. The R1 (R1a & R1b) are European lines.

27 posted on 06/22/2007 3:50:21 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: Joe Boucher
"And just how much monetary aid are we and the rest of the west paying Egypt to act reasonably like a civilized country?"

Last I heard it was $2-3 billion a year. (We're not getting our moneys worth)

28 posted on 06/22/2007 3:52:21 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: ßuddaßudd
Tell the Egyptians to go pound sand.

That should keep them busy for quite a while.

29 posted on 06/22/2007 3:56:23 PM PDT by dighton
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To: mware

‘That’s the thing about the BM, nothing in it is British.’

The British museum contains interesting things from the parts of the world Britain has owned, invaded or ruled, so it gives plenty of scope, but it does have huge numbers of British items as well:

http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/explore/highlights/highlights_search_results.aspx?RelatedId=9123

http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/explore/highlights/highlights_search_results.aspx?RelatedId=10027

http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/explore/highlights/highlights_search_results.aspx?RelatedId=10027


30 posted on 06/22/2007 4:12:03 PM PDT by britemp
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To: Constantine XIII

‘Another question: Should the British return all the stuff they took from Greece as well?’

Of course we should. We plan to do it on the same day you give America back to the Indians you took it from! :)


31 posted on 06/22/2007 4:15:26 PM PDT by britemp
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To: Constantine XIII
Should the British return all the stuff they took from Greece as well?

I'd say yes, along with all the stuff they took from other parts of the world. I'd imagine the British would feel the same way if Stonehenge was currently on display in Athens.
32 posted on 06/22/2007 4:18:05 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: agarrett

” The people living in England are also blood descendants of the Pyramid builders.’

That’s funny, they don’t LOOK like Egyptians...


33 posted on 06/22/2007 4:18:56 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: ßuddaßudd

“Tell the Egyptians to go pound sand.’

Go right to the experts, eh? I’d expect the Egyptians then to tell the British to go sand pounds.


34 posted on 06/22/2007 4:20:29 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: mutley
I find it quite remarkable, that anyone alive at this very moment, can claim a lineage, not just from the beginning of humanity, but from the beginning of life...period.

I do too. Lent some weight to my parents demands that I settle down, get married and have some kids - I'd hate to be the one to break a chain that long.
35 posted on 06/22/2007 4:21:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Constantine XIII
Another question: Should the British return all the stuff they took from Greece as well?

Long ago, Lord Elgin was guilty of Statuary Rape; but if Greece got them back now, he'd lose his marbles.

36 posted on 06/22/2007 4:27:07 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: agarrett
I decided to check your revered MIT Dr. Rohde's paper. Here’s an excerpt from the first page.

This study introduces a large-scale, detailed computer model of recent human history which suggests that the common ancestor of everyone alive today very likely lived between 2,000 and 5,000 years ago. Furthermore, the model indicates that nearly everyone living a few thousand years prior to that time is either the ancestor of no one or of all living humans.

Me thinks your doctor is a friend of Al Gore. He casts his hypothesis in extremes much like the Global Warming crowd. Really, a common ancestor of everyone alive could have lived as recently as 2,000 years ago - from the Americas, Europe, Africa, Asia, and Australia.

37 posted on 06/22/2007 6:19:51 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: blam
Thanks for the map and your longterm efforts posting this topic on FR. Human migration is an intriguing topic. I hope someday the biologists, linguists, historians, and archaeologists put together a credible composite atlas.

This Y DNA is new to me. I just checked out some websites on the topic. It looks like some sites offer genuine insight and others are looking to hustle people with tests that promise a report back to the beginning. It must take a lot of your time sifting through these sites.

38 posted on 06/22/2007 6:54:12 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Here's a decent map based on DNS:

Journey Of Mankind

39 posted on 06/22/2007 7:36:13 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
OOPS.

Make that DNA, not DNS.

40 posted on 06/22/2007 7:37:09 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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