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Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) comes out against the Bush-Kennedy immigration bill (shamnesty)
http://www.larslarson.com/ ^ | 6/21/07 | CT

Posted on 06/22/2007 11:44:20 AM PDT by CT

Senator Smith of Oregon just announced on The Lars Larson Show that he will vote AGAINST CLOTURE, and that he is opposed to the current immigration bill.


TOPICS: Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aliens; gordonsmith; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals
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To: romanesq

“He should resign and retire. Go play with some of friends along the border.”

From your lips (fingers?) to God’s ears. I would LOVE to see that man gone.


21 posted on 06/22/2007 12:00:16 PM PDT by Grammy ("Ms Pelosi is a very difficult person to embarrass." Fred Thompson, 4/11/07)
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To: CT

Hutchinson, Lamar!, now Smith. We’ve gotten the poltroons on our side, and isn’t that always a majority in the Senate?


22 posted on 06/22/2007 12:05:59 PM PDT by Plutarch (Bush is a coward to the left and a tyrant to the right.)
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To: CT

>Smith calls this bill “back-door amnesty.”

As borrowed from Republican Duncan Hunter’s popular campaign promise, “The back door will be closed. If they want to come to America, they’ll have to ‘knock on the front door’.”


23 posted on 06/22/2007 12:13:55 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Plutarch
Hutchinson, Lamar!, now Smith. We’ve gotten the poltroons on our side, and isn’t that always a majority in the Senate?

Republican Senators are riding to the rescue to save America as seen on this thread. But everyone is still blaming the GOP. Where are the Democrats/Socialists ? Democrats are still plotting to destroy America. And this is how they are planning to do it:

Liberals,Democrats, and Bush want to turn the U.S.A into a socialist Venezuela or a 3rd world country with the passage of this Amnesty bill:

From the Washington Times: Amnesty Bill permits 193 million more aliens from the 3rd world

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24 posted on 06/22/2007 12:16:08 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: CT

we have nine senators (Sessions, DeMint, Grassley, Vitter, Colburn, Inhofe, Bunning, Enzi, and Ensign) signed onto a letter to Bush opposing this idiocy, Cornyn, Hutchison, and now Smith. That’s 12 (not counting leaners or undecideds), we’re still 28 short of knocking this thing down again. Keep workin’ folks.


25 posted on 06/22/2007 12:19:05 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: hunter112

Not all of the reasons given by the left are wrong. Two reasons I can think of where the left is correct are:

1. Rampant immigration is going to (and already has) depressed wages for people without college degrees. The trade unions have been coming out against these bills as they hear from more and more of their members just how many illegals have taken jobs (well paying jobs) from the trades on construction sites.

2. The environmental aspect isn’t far off base. From the trash strewn through public lands near the borders, to the crush on natural resources in the west (esp. water), there is no doubt that the southwest/west is quickly reaching ‘carrying capacity’ in some areas. Adding more people is simply not good long-term policy.


26 posted on 06/22/2007 12:21:47 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: SCHROLL

Is Ensign now coming out against this bill? Has that been reported/confirmed anywhere?


27 posted on 06/22/2007 12:22:27 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Grammy

You know, I’ve never, ever seen a candidate who seemed to be so aware of “public opinion” in his populist campaign for the presidency stand so pat on a position so abundantly out of favor with voters.

McCain’s positions on most everything else are designed to curry favor with polls and bipartisan “conventional wisdom.”


28 posted on 06/22/2007 12:25:18 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

he signed the letter opposing it sent to Bush, if he backtracks he only causes problems for himself. I think you can safely count him in.


29 posted on 06/22/2007 12:26:00 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: SCHROLL
we have nine senators (Sessions, DeMint, Grassley, Vitter, Colburn, Inhofe, Bunning, Enzi, and Ensign) signed onto a letter to Bush opposing this idiocy, Cornyn, Hutchison, and now Smith. That’s 12 (not counting leaners or undecideds), we’re still 28 short of knocking this thing down again. Keep workin’ folks.

Aren't all of these Republican senators that have committed to killing this bill? Doesn't anyone see the obvious menace and threat the Democrat party is to America, liberty, and the American people?

Does the liberal media have us so trained that the only time we talk about someone being a Republican is when we bash all Republicans when a liberal RINO pretending to be a a Republican like Lott, McCain, Graham, Bush, Hagel,Specter, does something to hurt America?

Liberals,Democrats, and Bush want to turn the U.S.A into a socialist Venezuela or a 3rd world country with the passage of this Amnesty bill:

From the Washington Times: Amnesty Bill permits 193 million more aliens from the 3rd world

30 posted on 06/22/2007 12:30:54 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: NVDave
86% of Democrat Senators voted to end debate and so to pass this Amnesty bill that would allow 20 million illegals to bring to the U.S.A. their family members thus destroying the U.S.. Unions are lobbying congress to pass this horrible Amnesty bill.

The AP is trying to put the blame on the GOP for this Amnesty. You don't see the threat that the Democrat party and unions are to liberty and America?

I am quoting a reliable conservative Michelle Malkin Look at all the unions and liberal Soros groups in that list that are lobbying congress and meeting with them bribing them and threatening them to pass this Amnesty::

Who is the “Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform?” An umbrella group for every major pro-open borders outfit–many of which receive generous taxpayer subsidies. From a March 2007 press release:

A coalition of local immigrant advocates, national policy groups, labor unions, faith-based groups, and ethnic organizations have come together under the umbrella of the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CCIR) to mount an unprecedented nationwide campaign to support passage of workable comprehensive immigration reform legislation in Congress this year.

CIR launched its effort over the weekend in Washington by bringing together field organizers from 29 states to hammer out strategy and refine legislative targets. In addition, the campaign�s Strategy Council met to consider legislative strategy and policy priorities. The members of the Strategy Council are:

ACORN, Asian American Justice Center, Center for American Progress, Center for Community Change, Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC), Denver Area Labor Federation, El Centro, Inc., El Pueblo, Hate Free Zone, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, LA County Federation of Labor, Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, LULAC, Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, MALDEF, NAACP, NAKASEC, NALACC, National Capital Immigrant Coalition, National Council of La Raza, National Immigration Forum, National Immigration Law Center, Nebraska Appleseed, New York Immigration Coalition, PCUN/CAUSA, SEIU, SEIU 32BJ, SEIU Florida Healthcare Union, Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, UNITE HERE, UNITE HERE Local 226 Las Vegas, UNITE HERE New Jersey State Council, United Farm Workers, United Methodist Church - General Board of Church and Society.


31 posted on 06/22/2007 12:37:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: berstbubble

McCain and “conservative” Kyl...


32 posted on 06/22/2007 12:39:28 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Amnesty GOP members are betting on a Clinton nomination, to get their support back!)
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To: Grammy

That’s the only good thing to come out of this immigration debacle. I just hope his Presidential hopes stay dead unlike his God forsaken bill.


33 posted on 06/22/2007 12:39:46 PM PDT by Barb4Bush (Ted Kennedy: Making me ashamed to be Irish Catholic for over 43 years.)
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To: Grammy
Don’t forget Sen. McCain has finally run a stake through the heart of his presidential run by supporting this bill.

Among other stupid things such as McCain/Feingold and going into tyrannical rants at the drop of a hat like a deranged maniac.
34 posted on 06/22/2007 12:50:14 PM PDT by no dems (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun.)
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To: Democrat_media

You’ve completely missed the thread here.

a) I don’t support the Democrats, or the unions.
b) In my above reply, I said that there were two reasons why the left was correct to oppose this bill — unskilled worker pay and environmental reasons.
c) the list of unions you give are not trade unions. They’re government employee unions.
d) As far as I’m concerned, on this immigration bill, the biggest enemy to the US is the Catholic Church.


35 posted on 06/22/2007 12:53:38 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: SCHROLL

Good. I’ve been pissed at Ensign for weeks now, with this waffling “I want to be a good Republican, but I don’t want to offend my *very* good friend, Harry Reid...” crap.


36 posted on 06/22/2007 12:55:47 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
You said unions are against this Amnesty bill. I showed you a link that shows several unions that are lobbying congress to pass this Amnesty bill including the United Farm Workers. Is that a government union too? So what if some are government unions ("that depends on what is is"). That was only a partial list too. I'm going to be back and post more unions that are lobbying congress to pass this Amnesty. Yes it angers me people are giving unions and democrats who are leftist,socialists working to destroy the U.S. a pass.

86% of Democrat Senators voted to end debate and so to pass this Amnesty bill that would allow 20 million illegals to bring to the U.S.A. their family members thus destroying the U.S.. Unions and Democrats have the same positions. After Amnesty democrats get more voters and Unions get more members. sure there is lip service but the proof is in the pudding the 86% of Democrats who voted to pass Amnesty 2 weeks ago.

The AP is trying to put the blame on the GOP for this Amnesty.

I am quoting a reliable conservative Michelle Malkin Look at all the unions and liberal Soros groups in that list that are lobbying congress and meeting with them bribing them and threatening them to pass this Amnesty::

Who is the “Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform?” An umbrella group for every major pro-open borders outfit–many of which receive generous taxpayer subsidies. From a March 2007 press release:

A coalition of local immigrant advocates, national policy groups, labor unions, faith-based groups, and ethnic organizations have come together under the umbrella of the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CCIR) to mount an unprecedented nationwide campaign to support passage of workable comprehensive immigration reform legislation in Congress this year.

CIR launched its effort over the weekend in Washington by bringing together field organizers from 29 states to hammer out strategy and refine legislative targets. In addition, the campaign�s Strategy Council met to consider legislative strategy and policy priorities. The members of the Strategy Council are:

ACORN, Asian American Justice Center, Center for American Progress, Center for Community Change, Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC), Denver Area Labor Federation, El Centro, Inc., El Pueblo, Hate Free Zone, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, LA County Federation of Labor, Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, LULAC, Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, MALDEF, NAACP, NAKASEC, NALACC, National Capital Immigrant Coalition, National Council of La Raza, National Immigration Forum, National Immigration Law Center, Nebraska Appleseed, New York Immigration Coalition, PCUN/CAUSA, SEIU, SEIU 32BJ, SEIU Florida Healthcare Union, Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, UNITE HERE, UNITE HERE Local 226 Las Vegas, UNITE HERE New Jersey State Council, United Farm Workers, United Methodist Church - General Board of Church and Society.

The U.S.A is the last hope for freedom and justice in the world .

Here is how they hope to destroy the U.S. and with it freedom:

Liberals,Democrats, and Bush want to turn the U.S.A into a socialist Venezuela or a 3rd world country with the passage of this Amnesty bill:

From the Washington Times: Amnesty Bill permits 193 million more aliens from the 3rd world

37 posted on 06/22/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: NVDave
You're correct about that, they are worried about the undereducated losing jobs to illegals. Of course, their solution is also to unionize even the dishwashers at Denny's, too.

I've not heard the left make an enviro-attack on illegal immigration. All I hear them talking about is how all of us are polluting sacred mommy Earth, just by being here. Good points, though.

38 posted on 06/22/2007 1:08:50 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: hunter112

And you think unions won’t unionize the illegals after the illegals get Amnesty? Look at my other posts on this thread and you will see proof that unions are and have been actively lobbying congress for to pass this Amnesty bill.

Also Democrats know they will get 20 million new Democrat voters after the illegals get Amnesty. But everyone is blaming the GOP for this. Up is down. Sure there is propaganda in the liberal media and lip service but the proof is in the pudding, 86% of Democrat Senators voted to pass this Amnesty bill last week. If unions and Democrats were so opposed to this Amnesty like the liberal media says then why did they vote 86% of them to pass the bill then?


39 posted on 06/22/2007 1:16:44 PM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: CT

I think we may be starting to make a difference, folks. Gordon comes from a blue state, and he’s still switching. Now we’ve got to keep the heat on others. The new england Republicans probably need some reminding on this issue...


40 posted on 06/22/2007 1:19:05 PM PDT by DesScorp
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