“and to bad for poland - beeing conservative is not enough you have to be successful.”
As long as you use the name Rummenigge: success for the Germans and that “Miracle of Bern”; though they probably are not worst than some of the other World Cup winners; with the Hand of God; Mussolini and all that, still; concerning 1954:
“It’s just a shame that it now seems that those 11 miracle-workers and German Heroes may have cheated to do it.” - http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/matt20040610.html
And in 1982; Schumacher punched out that French player who may have been on his way to a goal; though Coach Klinsmann’s team and the one from 2002 were good, one can’t help but contemplate diving by the Germans in 1990; not to be outdone by Diego’s antics in ‘86.
I only mention these things, because it does depend on how one defines “success”, honesty and the great financial aid realized by West Germany after the war also plays a part.
I was not aiming onto the astonishing economic performances poland showed to be capable of but I was referring to the negotiation skills of these expert diplomates who wanted to start WWII again for same square root regulation that wouldn’t have brought them any use because they couldn’t convince stone to follow gravity.
“I only mention these things, because it does depend on how one defines “success”, honesty and the great financial aid realized by West Germany after the war also plays a part.”
Not only a part but a base for the opportunity we used in such a way that it really makes me proud.
Poland does the same with my tax money. Cool. We will hopefully benefit from that as the US reaped what they saw in germany.
Still it strikes me that US conservatives bring the talk to the marshall plan - it’s just what they would never have done - dropping cash onto their enemies.