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Bush Signs Executive Order Encouraging Ethically Questionable "Pluripotent Stem-cell Research"
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | Wednesday June 20, 2007 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 06/20/2007 7:41:26 PM PDT by monomaniac

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1 posted on 06/20/2007 7:41:30 PM PDT by monomaniac
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This is idiotic. If it was even remotely possible for these cells to grow into embryos, it would be being seriously considered as a method of human cloning.

It’s crap like this which gives the pro-life cause a black eye time and time again.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 7:46:08 PM PDT by furquhart (Fred Thompson for President)
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More New Tone crapola...


3 posted on 06/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I know nothing about it, but it doesn’t seem like reprogramming adult cells to act like embryonic cells is unethical. Anyone else?


4 posted on 06/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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allowed federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research

At least they left the 'federal' part in there. Many articles make it sound like the President makes it illegal to conduct stem cell research. It would be like saying Clinton walked away from research into the super-conducting super-collider when he abandoned the work done so far in Waxahachie, Texas.
5 posted on 06/20/2007 7:47:48 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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"But that begs the question of whether or not the pluripotent cell is actually a "biological" artifact, or simply a severely disabled human embryo.

It raises the question. A question is "begged" only when it is answered using redundant information, frustrating the asker.

6 posted on 06/20/2007 7:54:07 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: furquhart; monomaniac

monomaniac doesn’t post to his/her/it’s own threads. He/she/it is a post~n~runner...


7 posted on 06/20/2007 7:57:55 PM PDT by rockrr (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0)
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To: furquhart

Some people would have us treating tumors as sacred human flesh.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 8:00:15 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Very bad news.

Let’s stick to ADULT STEM CELLS and PLACENTA STEM CELLS.

Don’t go wobbly on us. You will lose the pro-life support and you won’t get a word of thanks from the Democrats. Not one word.

Don’t do it.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 8:12:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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These are adult stem cells.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 8:36:43 PM PDT by furquhart (Fred Thompson for President)
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...President Bush pleased pro-life advocates today by proving willing once again to defend human life by vetoing a bill that would have allowed federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research...and if embryonic stem-cells hold so much promise, there should be plenty of private funding available to support research in the area - think of all the profits to be made from all the procedures that such research should produce if embryonic stem cells are so promising......
11 posted on 06/20/2007 8:40:36 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: sageb1

The process for obtaining stem cells that are actually removed from viable embryos after they have separated from the cells which will become the placenta does destroy a viable mature human being. A somatic (fully differentiated) cell taken from a mature human and coaxed to return to a more primitive stage so it can be redirected is still just a tiny fraction of the body it came from, not an interrupted life.

Some earlier research focused on creating non-viable fertilized eggs by manipulation, and designating them as acceptable because they could never develop properly. But that doesn’t sound like anything I would want transplanted into me.

I have no problem at all with this recent discovery, and I don’t think you should, either.


12 posted on 06/20/2007 8:44:15 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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the president has the moral authority to say that embryonic stem cell research should be completely outlawed.

This movement is turning into "PETA for people".

13 posted on 06/20/2007 8:49:57 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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“pluripotent stem-cell research just amounts to the same thing as embryonic stem-cell research,”

Well, yes, except that embryos are not used. I don’t know why Lifesite gets spammed so heavily onto FreeRepublic. It’s like we’re a repeater station for them. And, as this article shows, they have as much of an agenda as anyone else.


15 posted on 06/20/2007 9:32:42 PM PDT by gcruse
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A deceptive move designed to fool all of us, because they figure we can’t understand these complicated processes.

Seems to me from all I’ve read of this process is that they’re cloning embryos and disabling them. Making them intentionally defective. Ghoulish.

Dangerous territory indeed.


16 posted on 06/20/2007 9:38:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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To: EternalVigilance

Really? You call “reprogramming adult cells to act like embryonic stem-cells” cloning embryos? Maybe you should read some more ... starting with the article at the top of the thread.


17 posted on 06/20/2007 9:44:04 PM PDT by gcruse
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>>>These are adult stem cells.<<<

Right! They are tweeked adult stem cells. The tweeking doesn't make them embryos.

18 posted on 06/20/2007 9:46:35 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: gcruse

No. They’re using the “Dolly the sheep” method to create embryos, using adult cells as a sperm substitute. It’s cloned. And they’re ghoulishly disabling the cloned embryo so that, theoretically, it supposedly cannot implant in the uterus. Somehow, that is supposed to make it alright.

Bush, and Romney for that matter, are pulling a fast one.


19 posted on 06/20/2007 9:50:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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To: HardStarboard

They’re embryos.


20 posted on 06/20/2007 9:50:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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