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Poisonous and Treasonous
American Spectator ^ | 20 june 07 | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 06/20/2007 6:15:14 AM PDT by rellimpank

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To: IrishMike
"McCain said conservatives who want to focus exclusively on securing America’s borders are missing a major part of the problem: that 40 percent of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States are here because they overstayed their visas, not because they entered the country illegally."

Okay, Senor Juan Mequain. 12 million minus 40% equals a little over seven million. America will take it's chances with that reduction as a starting point. Get to work!

Linseed Graham, SHUT UP, you BIGOT!

21 posted on 06/20/2007 10:53:47 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: IrishMike

“McCain said conservatives who want to focus exclusively on securing America’s borders are missing a major part of the problem: that 40 percent of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States are here because they overstayed their visas, not because they entered the country illegally.

Hello Mc Cain - WTF is the difference ?”

We have 2 holes in our system:
1. one of them is the visa overstay hole (40% of problem)
- to plug it you need to track entries and exits from the country (US VISIT program) and hunt down the sponsors of visiter
2. Another is the border crossing hole (60% of problem)
- to plug it you need to build a fence.

Both holes are driven by economic reasons (jobs and govt goodies) so you need
3. The employment attraction needs to be diminished with employment verification and workplace enforcement
4. End govt services to illegal aliens (there are many places where immigration status is never checked)

OR YOU CAN SAY MAKE ANOTHER HOLE VIA AMNESTY FOR 12 MILLION AND CALL THAT A “SOLUTION”...

“I think the American people are sophisticated enough to know that the way you stop illegal immigration is not to start by announcing you’re going to reward illegal immigration,” Bilbray said. “I know the senators may think that it’s logical what they’re doing, the president may think it’s logical, but it’s as logical to give amnesty at the beginning of immigration reform as it would be to drill a hole in the bottom of a boat to let the water out.”

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/06/20/MNGSLQI0VR1.DTL


22 posted on 06/20/2007 1:20:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: rellimpank

No illegals is the only legitimate option.
Put snipers on the border and let them practice their marksmanship.
After a dozen or so examples, the bulk of the invaders will stop trying.


23 posted on 06/20/2007 1:23:53 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Sans-Culotte; BluH2o

“No matter how much we liked Tony as a talk-radio host or a sub for Rush, he is now no more than a mouthpiece for Bush.”

Correct, and to the other poster, it is not a party line, it is Bush-line. The GOP grassroots is united in opposition to this amnesty / sham-nesty bill.

We need a Bush-whacking on this issue.


24 posted on 06/20/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: IrishMike
McCain said conservatives who want to focus exclusively on securing America’s borders are missing a major part of the problem: that 40 percent of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States are here because they overstayed their visas, not because they entered the country illegally

Screw you, MeCain. The 12 million number is 5 years old and is more likely over 20 million.

25 posted on 06/20/2007 5:03:54 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Jack Black
CW II Ping

Or, BLOAT Ping

26 posted on 06/20/2007 5:28:43 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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27 posted on 06/20/2007 5:40:11 PM PDT by Gritty (Illegals work for less because they don't pay taxes and their employers don't obey laws-Ann Coulter)
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To: Travis McGee

Hi, Travis. Good to see you back.

How about building 2 walls, with the space between having 20-foot tall steel plates pounded into the ground to discourage tunnelling?

My original idea was to salt the border with high-level nuclear waste, but that would be a really hard sell.


28 posted on 06/20/2007 6:32:08 PM PDT by FierceDraka (I'm not against the government. The government is against ME.)
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To: FierceDraka

Thanks, it’s good to be back.

In open country, double fences are actually more effective than walls, because walls shield the movements of illegals on the other side.


29 posted on 06/20/2007 7:30:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
What sort of idiots do they think we are?

The sort who don't notice when we're bing sold down the river, apparently. Or so many of our elected officials hope. This is nothing new, though...

"What good fortune for leaders, that the people do not think."
- Adolf Hitler

30 posted on 06/20/2007 8:04:25 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: rellimpank

There more in this immagration bill than meets the eye. God forbid this frankstein monster bill could be raise to life, again.
I beleive there is language in the bill not being talk about that threats our imminate domain on the border. With the arrest of border patrol who are protecting themselves and our way of life. From those who our attacking us. As one example that there more in this bill that will change every thing not just. And the fact that President Bush does nothing, see nothing, our hear nothing. Perhaps Chavze was right about Bush being the devil in sheep clothing. Time will only tell.


31 posted on 06/25/2007 8:38:37 AM PDT by Warlord David
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