[tacticalogic]

And when did I claim either of those things?

Do you believe (or expect me to believe) that saying the philosophy is their basis for existence doesn't imply that they would not have existed without it?

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Do you believe (or expect me to believe) that saying the philosophy is their basis for existence doesn't imply that they would not have existed without it?

Look, show me where I said anything about them not existing without the philosophy of evolutionism in the first place. You can answer a simple question, right?