Posted on 06/19/2007 2:11:54 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
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Wouldn’t pretty much all gold be about the same age?
I’m surpised islamists don’t blow it up.
That my friend is a very interesting point.
The modern day Muslims like to brush over the fact that their own ancestors were infidels. Muslims are the children of Infidels. The very objects and monuments to point toward to glorify their past, is the very evidence that they are descended from heathens.
Although they claim the heritage of Abraham, ancient Arabs and Persians worshiped Ra and Isis in Egypt and Zoroastrianism in Persia (Zoroaster/Zarathushtra) Jew and Christians do not have this problem as they both claim a direct heritage to Abraham and have always worshiped one God without aberration.
So, according to the modern day idiotic version of Islam that is going around, it is, in fact, incumbent on the Muslims to destroy the Sphinx and all the other Egyptian monuments constructed before Islam, as they are representations of a God other than Allah or worship of a false God.
In a stricter interpretation of the current idiotic Islam, modern Muslim should declare Jihad against themselves as they are all descendants(bastard children) of unholy infidels and therefore they themselves are impure and unholy.
I compliment you on the way you think. I like that.
I think the title would imply that the gold is “archaeologically ancient”, meaning it was discovered/mined in ancient times. But your observation is correct.
Most Christians are descendants of Europeans or Native Americans both which worshipped multiple Gods before the introduction of Christianity. The Jews also had a pantheon of Gods before the Babylonian captivity and their exposure to Zoroastrianism.
Heeerrre's your sign.
Of course there have always been apostate Jews, but over time they cease to be Jewish.
You might refer to Terach the father of Abraham who was an idol worshiper and I’m pretty sure he was not eating kosher.
So, the conclusion is that the inception of Judaism is when God told Abraham to leave his father and is furthered by the Akiada (the non-sacrifice of Issac).
There is debate about your point. Noah is by all means considered Jewish, and spoke to the God of Abraham. Jewish linage is commonly traced back to the sons of Noah. (anti-Shem-ite for example) But Noah was, in a literal interpretation not circumcised and did not observe kosher. A spiritual interpretation would say that Noah instinctively knew these rules or was told by God and it is just not documented.
Jews have alway protected their lineage from the time of Abraham to the point of murder hence the actions of Pinchas.
As for the Christians, they have in their religion been washed by the blood of Christ and hold no guilt. Mormons, e.g., take this point very seriously.
So, Regardless of the status of Christians or Jews, in terms of heritage the Islamist are in fact the descendants of idolaters and infidels. And there is no question that according to their own rules and previous actions, the Sphinx and the pyramids must be destroyed as they represent other Gods and are an offense to Allah.
They’re not alone in being affected by other earlier religions. Despite your optimism re Judaism and Christianity, we absorbed a few influences from pagan religions of our own too.
Obvious ones include a lot of the Easter rituals and even Christmas customs, but lesser known ones make you wonder about how Mithras influenced us. Remember him? Born of a virgin on 25 December with shepherds in attendance...
What about Ut-pan-Napishtim in the Gilgamesh epic? Saved his family at the orders of the Gods from the flood that destroyed all Mankind...versions of this predate our earliest Judaic flood stories.
Now, I’m cheerful Christian and my faith isn’t shattered by earlier influences.
I just don’t have enough hubris to pretend Christianity and Judaism are immune to them or that other religions are lesser because we can spot earlier influences in them.
Many Arabs are descended from Abraham, some are descended from Lot. This what the Bible states.
Furthermore, converts to Christianity (which are many) haven't always always worshiped one God (double always intended).
Unless you have other information, even the islamofascists aren't out to kill people because of the religion their ancestors followed. So they wouldn't kill themselves because of their pagan ancestors. Even they recognize that they had pagan ancestors, something which you don't seem to (if you're a non-Jewish-descent Christian or Jew).
Sudan is rich in natural resources. They’re the Mexico of Africa. Blessed with land and resources, crappy socialist government.
There have been followers of the one God (be they Jewish or Christian or generic followers of God before the word Jewish/Hebrew/Israelite was made). Even from the atheist/non-Judeo-Christian view, Jewish monotheism is descended not from Zoroastrianism, but from Akhenaton's monotheism in Egypt--which is bunk.
Christmas especially, with the date (related to Saturnalia), Christmas trees and yule logs (Germanic paganism), mistletoe (actually secular--the kissing under it was diplomatic kissing originally) being blessed by Druids in 1800s UK, many 'patron saints' in towns or cities for denominations of Christianity who make saints to be special people rather than all Christians (as is the case) being uncannily similar (in power/behavior) to those towns/cities' earlier pagan era patron deity. Amerindian mixing their paganism in. Oddly, potentially because many Eastern religions are more philosophies than what could be considered religions, many Asian Christians--especially recent ones--tend to be not quite as tainted by their pagan past. This could also be that conversion was almost completely voluntary--they had little to gain, and oftentimes much to lose (being denounced and ostracized by their families). In contrast, Latin Americans were at least pressured into Christianity, and European largely adopted it when their leaders did (or in the Roman Empire, after Christianity became the state religion, it helped to climb the social ladder if you were Christian--government posts being given to Christians and such).
the italics were supposed to end after UK.
I was not offended. Just maybe correcting a thought.
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