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Almost they persuadeth me (Southern Baptists and Government Schools)
TexanOnline The Southern Baptist Texan ^ | June 12, 2007 | Gary Ledbetter

Posted on 06/19/2007 1:28:04 PM PDT by achilles2000

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To: metmom

We are moving to Janesville Wisconsin which is a small city. It seems really nice if cold. We are coming from the Atlanta area so we will be freezing next winter.


61 posted on 06/20/2007 6:15:22 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: metmom

That’s really sad.

It’s almost like, oh, I don’t know, hmm, government subsidized day care so mothers can work outside the home. Of course, if they didn’t have to pay taxes for the schools, they might have an easier job surviving on one income...


62 posted on 06/20/2007 6:16:38 AM PDT by JenB
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To: achilles2000
Eventually we’ll all leave public education or wish we had.

Truer words were never written.

63 posted on 06/20/2007 6:24:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: deaconjim

Same story as ours. By junior high, they were pretty much self-teaching; they just needed some supervision (and sometimes nagging).

I think the thing that makes homeschooling so successful is the one-on-one education. I always knew exactly where my kids were academically and when they had problems understanding something, we worked on it till they got it before they moved on. That’s where I lost it in school, especially math. They had their schedule and if I didn’t understand something, they’d go on anyway so everything that was built on that was lost.

When my kids really knew a subject, we’d cover it very lightly. When my youngest came to the meteorology section of her Abeka science book, she took one look at the first page, closed the book, picked up the test booklet, and got a 97 on the test. It helps living with a meteorologist, I guess. I couldn’t see wasting the time doing a section that she obviously knew so she got a break that time.

We went everywhere when they were little and they sure got lots of social experience.


64 posted on 06/20/2007 6:29:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nyconse

It gets REALLY cold up there. Wood stoves are nice for giving steady heat. We don’t have one in this house and I really miss it.


65 posted on 06/20/2007 6:30:55 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JenB

It is sad. I knew lots of people who pushed their kids into school before they were ready just for that reason.

The other sad thing, was when we swam with the Y using the local elementary school pool, we’d be there about 6 PM and there were still kids waiting to be picked up by mom or dad (elementary age).

According to statistics I’ve read, the second job (full time career type) eats up so much income that the family’s income is really only 25% higher than if only one parent worked. I can save that much in lots of ways with the extra time not spent working. Part time night not be the same, but the kind of jobs you get part time are not really glamorous.


66 posted on 06/20/2007 6:36:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I am vaguely amused by my coworkers, or my husband’s, who are all engineers whose wifes almost invariably are elementary school teachers. The husbands are making plenty for the wife to be home if she wanted, with their kids, but she’d rather take care of other peoples’ children because it’s more fulfilling.

Of course, some of the guys have homeschooling wives. Engineers in general seem to be overrepresented in the homeschooling world. There are two or three at my 40 person company, including my immediate boss.


67 posted on 06/20/2007 7:06:52 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

But then again, you have to be able to assess a situation such as this and know when you can no longer make any headway and when you can no longer let your children be subjected to the field trips to the abortion mills, the homosexual propaganda, and on and on. I don’t think what is happening is exactly taking my ball and bat and going home; it the preservation of my children.


68 posted on 06/20/2007 7:24:04 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: JenB

What about Sunday School? What about Church activities. What about playing with the neighbor kids?


69 posted on 06/20/2007 7:26:33 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: TChris

Let me know when you have fixed the schools. I can’t wait!


70 posted on 06/20/2007 7:27:53 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: twonie

I agree, I was being funny. I was homeschooled and I grew up into a computer nerd who met her also homeschooled husband over the internet, so obviously no socialization problems for me.

(Again, being silly).


71 posted on 06/20/2007 7:35:10 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

My husband’s an engineer. I know some families where the father is a university science professors (PhD level) and their wives have a science degrees as well. One of the wives is an engineer.

So homeschoolers are weak in science, huh?


72 posted on 06/20/2007 7:45:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

And math, how am I, a humble software engineer, going to manage to teach algebra as well as an education school graduate?

Bah, I was looking at the local homeschool laws yesterday for curiosity and they’re nearly as intrusive as the PA laws I grew up with. Maybe I should let my husband move us to Texas. I kept saying “Why is it the state’s business to know what textbooks I plan to use”.


73 posted on 06/20/2007 7:50:13 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

I understand. We live in NY.

Move BEFORE you have kids. It’s LOTS easier.


74 posted on 06/20/2007 7:53:02 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Mmm, not necessarily. If we move before we have kids, both of us have to get new jobs. And since my husband works in the aerospace industry there’s only so many places we could move. I’d love to move to Idaho or Montana but there are no jobs for us there.

It’s not that bad, Iowa is a lot more free than PA. I just think any regulation at all is wrong.


75 posted on 06/20/2007 7:57:10 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Lockheed Martin has a branch here in NY but while it’s better than PA for homeschooling, there are lots of better places to live for a variety of other reasons.


76 posted on 06/20/2007 8:00:44 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Yup, I’d be happier with Colorado, where I lived for a while, or Texas.... NY is so far down the list of places to live. I’d like my kids to grow up in a free country :-)


77 posted on 06/20/2007 8:05:09 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Just another Joe

Unfortunately, most parents won’t know what they have done to their children until the children are young adults.


78 posted on 06/20/2007 8:25:28 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: JenB

There are enough homeschoolers in Texas that the politicians fear us. So, we are mostly left alone.

A joke circulated in Austin after someone introduced some foolish legislation that brought down the wrath of the HSing community: “What’s the difference between a pitbull and a homeschooling mother?”....Lipstick.

The bill never made it to committee.


79 posted on 06/20/2007 8:30:43 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: WKB

how so?

so. baptist here, but always interested in how other churches work, differences between denominations, etc.


80 posted on 06/20/2007 8:55:58 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (tag line in shop. this is a rental ... does it make me look fat?)
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