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1 posted on 06/19/2007 8:45:32 AM PDT by george76
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So what did happen?


2 posted on 06/19/2007 8:47:23 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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But she won’t be able tell her story to jurors... because a judge’s order bars witnesses from using words like “rape” and “sexual assault” in the trial of Pamir Safi, who is accused of sexually assaulting Bowen.

there is more to this case...

3 posted on 06/19/2007 8:48:13 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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There’s ways around it.


4 posted on 06/19/2007 8:48:32 AM PDT by wastedyears (Check my profile for links to anti-illegal immigration T-shirts.)
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Safi and Bowen were strangers to each other when they met at a downtown Lincoln bar the night of Oct. 30, 2004. According to testimony from the first trial, the two had drinks and then left together after the bar closed at 1 a.m.

Bowen told an investigator the following day she could not remember most of the previous evening and that she did not willingly accompany Safi, according to a Lincoln Police report from November 2004.

She told the investigator she could only recall waking up in a strange apartment with an unknown man who was “having sexual intercourse with her.”

Now I ‘get it’.


5 posted on 06/19/2007 8:48:59 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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I wish I could take a stick to the judge. Then later, I wish the police would refuse to allow the jolly jurist to describe himself getting sticked as “an attack” in their report. He could only describe it as “an encounter [with a stick]” or a “chance meeting [with a stick]”.


6 posted on 06/19/2007 8:49:24 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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I wonder where the feminist groups are. Shouldn’t they be protesting this idiot judge’s ruling?


7 posted on 06/19/2007 8:50:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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I have also begun to wonder if Mr. Safi is a practitioner of the ROP?

Deconstruction of the language - and the failure to have a national language - will destroy this country.


8 posted on 06/19/2007 8:51:32 AM PDT by trimom
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Judge “Jeffre”! Puhleeze!


9 posted on 06/19/2007 8:51:41 AM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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This judge seems to have been studying the vocabulary of bill clinton.


11 posted on 06/19/2007 8:55:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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just another example of how our judicial system has gone wrong. last night on o’reilly they were talking of a judge that gave a convicted rapist probation because he felt that he was depressed when he committed the crimes. people better wake up soon before it is too late, or is it to late already?


16 posted on 06/19/2007 9:00:56 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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Why doesn’t censorship apply? A government agent is restricting her speech.


20 posted on 06/19/2007 9:09:56 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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Maybe the judge should be “gravitationally suspended” from an “arborescent form” that is “vertically superior” using a “vegetable-based cord.”


21 posted on 06/19/2007 9:10:18 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (Taxation WITH representation sucks, TOO!)
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We need to know this guys history. If he is drugging his dates this may not be the first time.


22 posted on 06/19/2007 9:10:39 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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“The word ‘sex’ implies consent,” she said.

No, it doesn't.

23 posted on 06/19/2007 9:13:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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Who is Pamir Safi?

Somehow I don’t think he is that nice Norwegian boy from down the street.

And he probably isn’t Presbyterian, either.


28 posted on 06/19/2007 9:20:36 AM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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Won’t hold up on appeal. Victim can testify to whatever she wants to, and the defense attorney can cross-examine her to cast doubt on various aspects of her testimony.


32 posted on 06/19/2007 9:39:52 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Last month, Lancaster County District Judge Jeffre Cheuvront denied a motion by prosecutors that would have prohibited Safi’s attorneys from using words like “sex” and “intercourse” when describing the encounter between Safi and Bowen.

Sounds like a loony judge, but it's nothing a clever person couldn't get around...
"When he shoved his genitalia into me without my permission, consent, or willingness, I..."
The jury will get it.

In Bowen’s opinion, Cheuvront’s ruling means she will have to lie on the witness stand. "The word ‘sex’ implies consent,” she said. “I never once would describe (what happened) as sex. He’s making me commit perjury.”

Hyperbole, but that's nothing new for a courtroom debate. He made a stupid ruling (probably while trying his best to make sure that there are no grounds for appeal). Take it and move on. Use it later (in your own appeal) if need be.

34 posted on 06/19/2007 9:56:00 AM PDT by Teacher317
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I have said it for 50+ years::

When men are the victim of rape like women are, this crime will be punishable by death..no parole..no appeals..DEAD.

Men just don’t get it.


54 posted on 06/23/2007 9:07:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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