Posted on 06/19/2007 6:52:38 AM PDT by Neville72
Who is? Nobody at this juncture.
Rudy is faltering too. His foot in mouth syndrome has all but erased his “hero” appeal and crossover appeal.
To me, Fred is half a loaf. Perhaps three-quarters. Rudy, OTOH, is a breadcrumb.
You guys are dead wrong. We LOST the center in 2006. We’re not going to get it back by running a southern good-ol’ boy. Why, pray tell, would the Democrats fear Fred Thompson? And if he is so great then why doesn’t he throw his hat into the ring? Say what you want about Giuliani and McCain and Romney (I have problems with all of them) but at least they are debating and working to get votes. Fred Thompson is lazy, and that he won’t get into the race and would instead comment from afar while Sean Hannity had to save his ass from flubbing a question on abortion is insulting. Why shouldn’t he have to earn our votes like everyone else? Why should someone who hasn’t been vetted leap to the front of the pack? Shouldn’t he have to prove himself before he earns the support of Republicans?
He’s doing just fine. He’s down by 5 on Hillary and not even in the race yet.
Paying attention to head-to-head matchups at this point in the game isn’t productive.
You apparently are woefully ignorant regarding Mr. Thompson and his appeal to the electorate. The Dems are literally shaking at the thought of having to run against him. He will trounce any one of them and make it look easy while doing it.
I’m woefully ignorant?
What shred of evidence do you have to prove he’ll trounce ANY Democrat let alone every one?
What kind of appeal does Thompson have that Bush didn’t have in 2000, before all of the baggage of tough decisions that had to be made over the past 7 years?
What a pantload.
Point by point:
They fear him because they know he can win. Have you been over to DU and Daily Kos? They even grudgingly admit they agree with Fred on a few things and think he can win.
He is throwing his hat in - in early July. He didn’t do it yet, because then he’d have to report a poor financial showing at the end of this quarter (from jumping in mid-quarter) on June 30. He also had TV/movie contractual obligations. Lazy my ass...that’s an old, tired argument.
Sean Hannity didn’t save him from anything. Esp. considering that Sean has all but fellated Rudy Giuliani despite HIS abortion position anyway.
He is earning our votes. He’s already earned mine. Give the man time, and you’ll probably come around too.
"Fred looks too old."
"Only Guiliani can win."
"Why hasn't Fred jumped in too early like everyone else?"
"Fred's lazy."
It's all hogwash, and has been refuted a hundred times over, yet those of you who would sell out the soul of the party in the misguided notion that a guy who couldn't beat Hillary in a Senate campaign is a shoe-in to beat her for the Presidency still keep repeating it as if you can make it true by repeated assertion.
And what shred of evidence do you have that he won’t????
That’s what I thought.
How old are you? Do you even remember 2000? Conservatives were never excited about the prospect of GWB. There was nothing like the grassroots groundswell that has formed around Fred Thompson! Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really that tone deaf?
Ability to communicate. Bush was never good at that. Respect for federalism and states' rights, another thing Bush never really focused on. Fred is socially conservative without coming across as a Bible-Thumper, which Bush always has and is one thing that would be a negative in the current political climate. At the same time though Fred still appeals to the Christian Right. A strong position in favor of border control without appearing to be a nutcase on the issue. Communicates conservatism without being a "compassionate conservative" - a great idea Bush had but it didn't turn out as well as we hoped, as it was not conservative in implementation.
And what shred of evidence do you have that he won’t????
That’s what I thought.
How old are you? Do you even remember 2000? Conservatives were never excited about the prospect of GWB. There was nothing like the grassroots groundswell that has formed around Fred Thompson! Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really that tone deaf?
Don't buy into the FR myopia about Fred - both Hilly and Obama would beat him in a head-to-head match up. Expect FDT to get an electoral vote count close to what Bob Dole garnered.
And we have another one! They’re really crawling out of the woodwork today.
Apparently, nobody can beat Hillary using that logic.
So why don’t we just shoot every Democrat running, and every Democrat voter, then run Tom Tancredo and be done with it?
Let's wait a couple of months and I bet things will look different, and then another couple of months and you get the same type of political "mood" swings.
As of right now, it’s more likely than not that the dems win big in 2008, no matter who the GOP nominee is.
I don’t suggest shooting anyone. If the electorate wants Hillary, and gives her a powerful mandate, that’s good enough for me, even if I don’t like the electoral outcome.
In no particular order:
Well, you're not ignorant. But you've yet to respond to my post #30 in which I ask a question to a rather unthoughtful remark:
YOU: The public as a whole is tired of the Southern act from the Republicans.
ME: Then why is he polling so well even before entering the race?
If the public is so tired of the 'Southern act', then how is it that Fred is polling so well? I'd really like to know your answer. After all, the Rasmussen poll, which now has Fred one point ahead of Giuliani, is a national poll. It reflects Americans across the country; not just regional, Southern states.
Please respond.
Nonsense. They're both horrible candidates, and will be in full tailspins by the end of the first debate. If not sooner. Today's "horserace" poll numbers mean nothing -- it just shows that the majority of voters would have a fell-good "fuzzy" about voting for a black or woman candidate. Once the real campaign starts and people pay attention, things will change.
What the polls do tell us are trends. The trend is positive for Thompson, neutral for Obama, and negative for Clinton and Guiliani.
oh but it’s his cancer that will keep him from winning, didn’t you hear? no matter that rudy and mcnut have had cancer, his cancer trumps that of mcnut and rudy.
Meh, more generic doom and gloom from our resident rain cloud. You are underestimating Thompson and his appeal across the electorate. The case has been made many times. Of course, you only come by to spread a little of your doom and gloom without anything to support it.
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