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To: Rodney King
The primary reason I believe, of course, is because the Bible tells me so. That's good enough for me, because I haven't found the Bible to be wrong about anything else.

It is wrong about the global flood.

Early geologists (creationists trying to prove the global flood) gave up about 1830. The evidence since then has accumulated -- there was no global flood about 4350 years ago.

19 posted on 06/17/2007 7:25:44 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Huh, my uncle who is a geologist (PhD) says there WAS a global flood.


20 posted on 06/17/2007 7:27:16 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Coyoteman

Things the Bible got Wrong

1. The ark that Noah was to built could not have physically held all the species of Animals on the Earth nor has there been time in the last 4,000 years for the number of species to evolve that could have fit on the ark as described in the Bible.

2. All Human Languages we have today formed when men built a tower to Heaven.

3. Humans in the past lived hundreds and some almost a thousand years. Human lifespans have never been as long as they are now and no remains have ever been found of a human who lived much longer than 120 years. Forensic science is at a very high state of being and can tell age due to several factors including dental wear and by studying cranial fissures.

Just off the top of my head three faults in Biblical teaching. The old testament especially Genesis is merely a collection of stories that instruct people in how to live morally. It was never meant to be taken literally.


34 posted on 06/17/2007 7:36:45 PM PDT by sentis1
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To: Coyoteman
Would you happen to know where Patrick Henry’s (RIP) 27 proofs (or 37, whatever), or equivalent, can be accessed online? Thanks in advance.
65 posted on 06/17/2007 8:16:34 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: Coyoteman
>> Early geologists (creationists trying to prove the global flood) gave up about 1830. The evidence since then has accumulated -- there was no global flood about 4350 years ago. <<

There is widespread evidence of a catastrophic flood around 5,500 BC and another that occurred even earlier, about 11,600 years ago. The Black Sea deluged around 7,600 years ago and to the humans at the time, it would have seemed as though the "entire world" was covered in water, (though in reality it was only the Mediterranean area, which was the center of human population). According to a report in New Scientist magazine's May 4, 2002 isssue, researchers found an underwater delta south of the Bosporus, giving solid evidence for a strong flow of fresh water out of the Black Sea in the 8th millennium BC. This would explain all the various Great Flood myths handed down from antiquity, notably Noah's Flood, but also Flood stories that pre-date the bible, such as the Sumerian Flood myth. Many stories handed down through the generations have basis in fact and real events that were distorted and changed as the centuries went on.

Unfortunately for creationists, they insist that every single word of the bible is literally true, and the earth couldn't have existed prior to 4004 B.C., so they will simply ignore scientific evidence of a flood that occurred 1500 years earlier.

155 posted on 06/17/2007 10:45:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: Coyoteman
ha eretz does NOT necessarily mean the entire earth. there are many biblical scholars who at least hold open the option that the flood was not the entire WORLD but the entire LAND

The language of the bible does not, in fact, demand such an assumption.

Sadly, the only thing more stupid than many fundamentalists are the skeptics who assume they are always right when they approach the bible.

If you want to argue against the veracity of the bible, then go for it. Better men than you (or me!) have tried. However, please try to know what the hell you are talking about when you start. It helps reduce the unnecessary palaver.

325 posted on 06/19/2007 5:25:16 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Libertarianism: u can run your life better than government can, and should be left alone to do it)
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To: Coyoteman

This is also wrong:

“6 Then God said, “Let there be a dome in the middle of the waters, to separate one body of water from the other.” And so it happened. 7 God made the dome, and it separated the water above the dome from the water below it.

Had there been an actual DOME we would have crashed through it. Now, I’d be willing to even believe that it’s metaphorical, but still...


349 posted on 06/19/2007 8:19:55 PM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Coyoteman
Early geologists (creationists trying to prove the global flood) gave up about 1830. The evidence since then has accumulated -- there was no global flood about 4350 years ago.

Early geologists? In 1830? I thought you might have said millions of years ago. There was a flood. God said so.

458 posted on 06/21/2007 12:10:34 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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