Posted on 06/16/2007 9:35:12 PM PDT by Coleus
And when the sex ends, as it one day may, the marriage will still go on because of the love relationship between the couple.
Got to laugh at myself.Survival mechanism,ya know.
Women are not meant to be sex-slaves, possessions or objects. We are to be a help-meet! Different perspective there. Different intent.
Out of curiosity...exactly how would a woman in your world EARN your respect?!
So if I met you somewhere, bumped into you in the mall or something, I would not deserve you treating me with respect at that moment?
I am sorry for your bad experiences with women. We are NOT all peronas.
Amen.
Ugly people breed too. They call them Democrats.
LOL! I asked my husband if he regretted not being a virgin when we got married (tonight, after reading this).
His first comment was “is this a trick question?” I assured him it wasn’t. I said I read something and wanted to see what he thought (and we have 4 daughters now, two are teens). He gave me an honest answer, he didn’t regret all the sex he had before he started dating me (and we didn’t have sex until we were married, I didn’t have sex until then). When I first started dating him in college, I use to call him a man slut,, jokingly. It didn’t matter to me that he was very experienced and I was no where near it.
If I judged him on his sexual experience, I wouldn’t have known what a wonderful person, husband and father he is. We have 4 daughters and two are teens, dating. He keeps telling me the teen boys are like him and I keep saying whatever, our girls are like me. They were daddy’s little girls, still are, but they talk to me about this stuff, he doesn’t understand that but I keep telling him, they’re girls, they’re gonna talk to me about this stuff regardless of how much you know about boys or how wonderful you are as their dad.
He’s shown them a wonderful example for men, like my dad did, he’s a great role model for his daughters.
Today at Mass, the homily mentioned Dads since it was father’s day. They say the same thing every year “the best thing you can do as a father, the best gift you can give your children, is to love their mother, the best thing a father can do for his kids is love their mother” and that’s true imo but it goes both ways. The best thing a mother can do for her children is love their father.
I’m also all for scaring the hell out of every boy who dates my daughters. :)
There is only real guilt because people like you make women and sometimes men feel low for doing what just comes natural, which is to procreate.
As for your god theory, I find the idea of a deity that is concerned about the “chastity” of his creations to be quaint at best and perverted at most. What kind of god is obsessed with the sexuality of creatures?
If god was really that concerned about creatures being “chaste” and “clean”, he wouldn’t have created housecats, rabbits and roosters.
And here’s a funny tidbit on a couple that “waited” http://killtheafterlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/horribly-awkward-first-sexual-encounter.html
If they encountered that difficulty in the relationship before marriage, they wouldn’t risk getting divorced because of sexual difficulties.
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You do realize the story in that blog post you linked to is from “The Onion” don’t you???
You apparently don’t read the Bible or understand what God feels about chastity before marriage. He says fornicators will NOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven. That’s pretty strong. Procreation needs to occur AFTER marriage, not before, because it cheapens the ones in this act. It doesn’t matter one bit what I believe, it matters what God believes, and HE is my standard, not you.
A friend of mine in church told me to have my son buy a big mean dog to keep the boys away from our oldest granddaughter, who is truly a beauty. I’m a gap-standing grandma and I’m not afraid to talk to her about such things, as are her parents.
You’re right. I don’t read the bible. Part of the reason why is because I don’t believe in using circular reasoning to back up my beliefs.
How sad for you. God loves you so much and believe me, in the days to come you will really need to know that and to trust HIM and Him alone for your salvation and your protection as end times prophecy comes true.
Neither do I need threats of desperation to back up my beliefs. My god is too big for the bible.
I don’t know what gap-standing means.
We talk to our kids and so far, they talk to us.
I could never be single in today’s world since my views on certain issues would be considered archaic. But according to my two teens, not every high school student is so liberal in their sexual views so maybe that’s a good sign. Maybe it’s turning around again.
You are a sad case. I’m going to pray for you.
It means standing in the gap, praying for your children and grandchildren. (and others)
I do think it IS turning around. Too much freedom has hurt kids and I do believe others see that clearer than they used to. It’s important to talk to your children and to place boundaries around their lives. They may not like it at the beginning but they’ll thank us for it later on in life. Love, Mxxx
Thanks for the definition (I had no clue what it meant, thought it was maybe a new teen term or vernacular I wasn’t aware of).
You’ll appreciate this story then. Long story short, I’m a tough or mean mom according to current standards. But my teens tell me everything that goes on in their and their friends lives. More than I want to know about their friends to tell you the truth. I’m not naive, I know every key stroke my kids make on the computer (per my husband being such a wiz). Anyway, we were at a party the other day, and one mom said to me, if she talked to her kids (2 teens, friends with my kids) or questioned her kids the way I just did, they’d tell her to shut up and mind her own business. I said, well, if my kids (any of the 4) talked to me that way, they’d feel the back of my hand on their mouth (and I never ever hit my kids so far). She told me I was very opinionated and was surprised my two teens react so well to me. Not long after that comment, she asked her kids to throw away their trash (these are two teens, 17 and 15). They tossed their plates on hers and told her “you throw them away” Well, I said, (said their names) throw away the trash so your mom doesn’t have to get up. An “issue” occurred. The mom ended up throwing everything away and my kids said to me “mom, why did you say that, it caused a fight, you had no right to tell them to throw away the trash.” They’re right. I had no right to say what I said. They weren’t my kids. However, I refuse to sit there quietly while some kids are completely disrespectful and those two teens carried my trash to the can because I said “here, throw this away for me” and they did.
On another note, another neighborhood parent, our kids our friends, etc. thinks I require too much (my kids work, the two teens and outside of school work, their job comes next)of my kids. None of her kids work (18, 17, 14). The parents pay for everything, no questions asked. Don’t get me wrong, my kids don’t suffer for anything, but it’s not like most of their friends, my kids don’t get anything they want and sometimes they have to work. I never considered it a huge issue before but now it seems I’m really hard on my kids according to their friends parents. Anyway, their kids can go to any college they want and it’s horrible that my kids don’t have the same opportunity (not my words). It’s horrible that I told my almost 15 yr old the other day at the party to stop feeling sorry for herself and get a job to keep up with her active social life. She said, all my friends parents pay for everything, and I said, like I care about any of that, they’re not my kids. This neighbor said, you are so hard on your kids. Why should she have to work, she’s only 15, why does ______ have to work, she’s only 16? I couldn’t explain it. My oldest now enjoys working and loves the extra cash she has. It’s all her money, only hers. She puts half in her bank account and keeps half for her social life. She asks what I think and I tell her, it’s your money, do whatever you want with it. I *suggest* that she keep what she’ll need and bank the rest. And by need I mean, social stuff not clothes, food, etc. I think it’s giving her financial freedom as well as teaching her about money. According to my neighbor, I’m making my kids work when I should be providing everything for them. Now, both teens are honor students, athletes, musically talented, blah blah blah. And, they’re gonna work part time. School and school related stuff comes first, then work, then church stuff, etc. They can’t go to any college they want, it will depend on scholarship money, and yeah, they can go anywhere they want but how much we contribute decreases according to the tuition. All of our children will go to college if they choose to but it may not be the college they want. I would love to tell them they can go anywhere, but we have 4 to help put through college, etc. My dad apologized many times for not being able to send me to Notre Dame. It was one of my choices. I wanted to attend Penn State and did. That was always my 1st choice. I knew they couldn’t afford ND and I couldn’t afford ND despite the scholarship money, Penn State offered more and it was cheaper. Plus, I wanted to go there. My Dad always apologized for not being able to send me to ND and I don’t think he ever realized it wasn’t a big deal to me. They taught me better than that.
My kids don’t want for anything really but they don’t have it as easy as their friends, this is an extremely affluent area and the kids seem to get everything they want. My kids don’t and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I think it’s turning around too (sex wise anyway). My girls are so much more Christian, modest than I was and I was considered off limits. They truly follow what they’ve been taught, being taught. My parents were easy but strict. I’m the same way, but more strict, lol. Yet, they still tell me stuff so that’s a good thing. When I was in high school, it was odd to be moral in that sense but it was worse the decade later, imo. Now, I think it’s turning around and kids are seeing just how damaging the free for all mentality is to them. We’re blasted with cable, MTV, even so called family shows treating sex like it’s just another thing in their daily life. Common. My teens are telling me that yeah, their friends, classmates are having sex but that it’s not the norm. Most aren’t, whether they’re choosing not to or whatever, it’s not happening as much anymore.
In the meanwhile, pray for me and every other Deist in the world, for we are ignorant and unblessed by our Bibleless, Koranless, and Torahless god. </sarc>
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