Posted on 06/16/2007 8:10:15 AM PDT by George W. Bush
Ron Paul, for the People
Can a libertarian Republican appeal to Democrats?
Ron Paul may not be the next president of the United States, but he is already in effect the president of meetup.com.
You might remember that online community site from the Howard Dean explosion leading into the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries. It was widely credited with being key to his burgeoning people power that scared the rest of the Dem pack four years ago.
Deanmania ruled for a while, at least until votes were actually cast. He did not, as you might notice, end up president, or even the Democratic nominee. But he did assure a political future for himself as chair of the Democratic National Committee.
Looking at the meetup numbers, Paul partisans cant help but feel a swell of hopeand wonder if Paulmania has some chance of reaching escape velocity between now and the actual primary season.
Ron has 8,763 meetup group members. For politicians actually running this year, hes more than 100 percent ahead of his nearest rival, Barack Obama. And thats not all: Pauls got about twice as many YouTube subscribers as he has meetup members, while Obama, who is supposed to be similarly exhilarating to the grassroots on the Democratic side, has only 6,589.
Despite these numbers in a world where concerted activist action can bring impressive paper results, and even gather more real-world cheering than competitors, Ron still isnt doing much in the polls, despite an impressive amount of specialty national media (from Maher to Dobbs to Stewart to Colbert), even in those polls which bother to include him. (Paul partisans have some good reasons to feel picked on and excluded by mainstream media, to be sure.)
Its no coincidence that meetup.com made its first big political splash for a Democrat, Dean. Conceptually, the meetup model fits well with a certain story that Democrats like to tell about themselvesall cutting edge and grassroots and people power, the sort of things a party that was, until 2006, largely out of federal power needs to court and cultivate.
That thought, and my experience at a meetup-generated Paul supporters meeting this week in Pasadena, made me wonder about Pauls potential to appeal to disaffected Democrats.
The meeting, which I stumbled into by accident (I hadnt signed up for Pauls meetup group myself and was unaware it was happening), had, even two and a half hours after its official beginning, a good 75 people filling the room. Attendees told me more than 100 were there at peakwhich I found quite impressive, but the Paul rally coordinator I spoke to seemed disappointed. There were more people under the age of 30 in this room then I saw at the national convention of the Libertarian Party in Portland in 2006.
When I asked one former Democrat at this gathering, who told me he got excited by Paul during the first televised GOP debates, whether he was a common phenomenon, both he and another supporter (who came to Ron from the hard money side) shook their heads wonderingly as if Id asked them something as ridiculous and obvious as if Ron Paul believes in the Constitution; its a constant phenomenon, they insist. The hard money guy, who likes to wear his nifty Ron Paul Revolution t-shirt (with the evol in revolution laid out to make the love backwards part stand out), says hes constantly approached by interested civilians, many of them Democrats, excited and eager to know more.
All either of them had was anecdotes, not thorough data. But no one is polling Democratic voters on their thoughts on Ron Paul, so thats all weve got to go on. The appeal makes sense on some level, especially when you look at the weak-kneed pasts of most of the antiwarriors leading the Dem pack and contemplate the list of issues that sum up Paul on a business card being handed out at this event.
It has the ronpaul2008.com address on top, and lists as Rons stances: Voted against Iraq War. Voted against Patriot Act. Never voted to raise taxes. Never voted to increase government. Opposes Internet regulation. Opposes War on Drugs. Opposes Torture. Supports non-interventionist foreign policy. Supports habeas corpus. (Thats the full list.)
Now, some Democratic intellectuals of the Jonathan Chait variety seem to think raising taxes is a primary political imperative, but Im sure even most Democratic voters arent going to actually mind too much that hes against raising taxes. So Paul has in many senses the best of the supposed appeal of Reaganite conservatism (small government, keeping the feds out of our lives), and is for many rights and against many abrogations of rights that progressives support.
And this list of stances (perhaps wisely) doesnt mention immigration at allwhere Pauls position, outside the modal libertarian let em in but dont put em on the dole line, probably appeals to more American voters than does that modal libertarian line. Thus, one wonders why Paul isnt considered a shoe-in for victory by acclimation, as he seems to have something big to offer almost every impassioned voting constituency. And hes even major party. (Not to mention that his noninterventionist foreign policy has something in common with the one that President Bush was elected on in 2000.)
One of the keys to why Paul should have wider appeal is that while he is certainly very libertarian, he is in many ways more federalist and constitutionalist than libertarian in a strict sense. Hes willing to leave all sorts of things to the states rather than imposing small-government solutions from the top down. He representsor should, to most thinking voterslittle in the way of a threat to their interests, insomuch as their interests dont involve living off the federal teat or using federal power to their advantage. As Paul told me when I interviewed him for my book Radicals for Capitalism, the freedom philosophy shouldnt be challenging to too many people, when you emphasize that all I want to do is leave you alone.
Progressive gadflies at the Nation such as Alexander Cockburn and John Nichols have had kind words for Paul, the former bordering on an endorsement. Paul has spoken of his affection for, and cooperation with, progressive Dem favorite Dennis Kucinich. Democratic voters need to decide, after eight years of Bush, if they can dedicate themselves mostly to stopping government from doing all the bad things they think Bush has done, from wars to Patriot Acts, or if it is more important to use governments power to do all the good things they insist must be done.
I suspect they will ultimately fall back on the latter, and not rush into every open primary state away from their own lame pack to push Paul forward in Republican primaries.
In the voting booth, momentum often seems to overcome affection (was Kerry really particularly beloved by anyone, even his family?) and the inertia of centrism often overwhelms potentially exciting change.
And undoubtedly, culturally and intellectually, Ron Paul is coming from a very different place than most Democratic voters, and especially from most Democratic intellectuals. (At this Pasadena meeting, the most prominent literature being handed out was issues of the Birch mag New American.) See the Suicide Girls softcore hipster porn web site for a list of reasons why most American progressives, the more they learn about Paul, might want to run away. And no matter how much evil they see in Bush, it is very hard for American liberals to let go of a dream of a powerful do-everything state that will do just what they want it to do, and no more.
Ron Paul is the most energetic and consistent advocate on an issue of paramount political importance, especially to left-progressivesending our involvement in Iraq. Hes willing to leave many controversial issues to states and localities. He wants to leave most of us alone to manage our own affairs, as either individuals or smaller polities. Hes a dedicated enemy of some of the most evil and repressive policies currently afoot in America. If Americas progressives cant manage to give him at least two cheers, the fault lies not with their candidates, but with themselves.
Still, Im not taking any bets on Ron Paul being the chairman of the RNC in 2009, either.
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What is a libertarian Republican? I assume they mean "libertarian leaning Republican." That said, Ron Paul is as loony as they come. But then people voted for Perot, so who knows? I know I'd never cast a vote for him.
He is a nut.
No. Being principled... he's too easy for bomb throwers in both Parties to take shots at. He'll garner appeal from both sides, but won't win the nomination.
Of course, if he did... he'd slaughter Hillary/Obama in thte debates.
He wants to portray himself as a libertarian, but he’s really a liberal.
America Firsters deja-vu...
I love that graphic.
Ron Paul, for the jihadi people.
Also, there have been a bunch of new adds. I'll FReepMail you a new copy with all the latest additions next week.
And the GOP establishment are Mensa members, right?
That’s not quite fair. He’s a big fan of slashing government programs and agencies — far beyond any other Republican in the presidential field.
Paul is 100% pro-life, 100% pro-gun, and 100% pro-border security.
How can he be a liberal?
Honestly, if you don't like Paul, that's fine. But there's no need to smear him or call him names. This man served in Vietnam, he was the head of Reagan's Texas delegation in 1976 and was one of his earliest supporters. Calling Paul a kook or a nut is really disingenious and is something that liberals do when they can't debate the facts.
Done.
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