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DEFENSE: BH ARMY DIVIDED SARAJEVO
Sense News Agency ^ | June 14, 2007

Posted on 06/15/2007 4:56:49 PM PDT by joan

Former logistics officer in the Sarajevo-Romanija Corps Zoran Samardzic claims that the BH Army divided the city in two and that the non-Serbs were not expelled from Hadzici. He knows nothing about the expulsions, detentions and torture because as he put it, he was “a logistics officer – a nobody”

Zoran Samardzic, former logistics officer in the VRS Sarajevo-Romanija Corps, testified at the trial of General Dragomir Milosevic as a defense witness. He claims that the BH Army divided Sarajevo in two, when it took the hills of Mojmilo and Zuc in May and June 1992. At the time, the witness lived in Hadzici, and he suddenly found himself in a situation he couldn’t comprehend: ‘Now they were Sarajevo, and we weren’t”.

Hadzici, Grbavica, Ilijas, Dobrinja, Nedzarici, Ilidza, Vogosca and other parts of Sarajevo were thus encircled by the BH Army. According to Milosevic’s defense counsel Tapuskovic, this in effect meant that “everyone was under siege” in Sarajevo, in particular those who lived in the area controlled by the Republika Srpska Army.

In the examination-in-chief, Samardzic said that his thirteen-year-old son and his eleven-year-old friend had been killed in the BH Army shelling of Hadzici.

Samardzic believes that no non-Serbs were expelled from Hadzici. Before the war, 70 percent of the population in Hadzici municipality was Muslim. According to this witness, they all left “of their own free will”. Serbs were “taken aback and astonished”, he said.

In the cross-examination, the witness claimed that he had known nothing about an SDS ultimatum issued on 7 May 1992, asking the Muslims to leave Hadzici. He knows nothing about the detention and torture of non-Serb civilians in the sports centre and the underground garage in the municipal building, and in eight other locations in Hadzici the prosecutor mentioned. He knows nothing about any presence of JNA troops in Hadzici at the outset of the war. He doesn’t know that because throughout that time, he was in his workplace, in the kitchen of the Repairs Centre. He was working there at the beginning of the war.

The kitchen remains the focus of his interest as the war unfolded: in the Sarajevo-Romanija Corps, he was in charge of providing meals for the troops. “I was a logistics officers – I was a nobody”, the witness said.


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1 posted on 06/15/2007 4:56:51 PM PDT by joan
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To: kronos77; Bokababe; DTA
In the examination-in-chief, Samardzic said that his thirteen-year-old son and his eleven-year-old friend had been killed in the BH Army shelling of Hadzici.

Sarajevo Serb children killed by Bosnian Muslim army shelling - yet their deaths add to the statistics of children killed which is claimed to be caused by Serbs. They don't do a break down of how many Sarajevo children killed during the war were Serbs.

2 posted on 06/15/2007 4:59:40 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
“I was a logistics officers – I was a nobody”, the witness said.

How Kurt Waldheim of him.

Just like the Germans, no Bosnian Serb ever saw any of the crimes perpetrated in their midst.

And like the Germans, their visions of ethnic supremacy have been turned to ashes.

3 posted on 06/15/2007 6:26:58 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Bosnian Army held Sarajevo hostage because it did not allow citizens to move out of Sarajevo. Sarajevo civilians were held hostage because Sarajevo was Bosnian Army garrison and used as a shield. This is war crime per Hague conventions on land warfare.

More than 5000 Serbs were murdered in Sarajevo by Muslim militias, police, army and through forced labor. Their death toll is used by the Muslims as "victims of Serbochetnik agression".

This is the fact. Everything else is Muslim propaganda. Consult Hoplite for more details.

4 posted on 06/16/2007 6:30:58 AM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Hmmmmmmm

It seems someone is belittling the Holocaust by making fatuous and ridiculous comparisons.

5 posted on 06/17/2007 2:43:28 AM PDT by Barnsleys Beck
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To: DTA
You must find it funny, DTA, how quickly the Serbophobes latch onto the moral equivalence rationale and seem intent on making light of the NAZIs' crimes in WW2.

Here, a Bosnian Serb soldier is compared with the anti-Semitic Kurt Waldheim.

Ironic, because it was the VRSs' enemy - Izetbegovich- who thought that Israel had no right to exist -see "Islamic Declaration" - and found faithful allies in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Israel, in contrast, poured arms and weaponry into the VRS

6 posted on 06/17/2007 4:24:14 AM PDT by Barnsleys Beck
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To: Barnsleys Beck
>>>>>>>>It seems someone is belittling the Holocaust by making fatuous and ridiculous comparisons.<<<<<<<<

This is the name of the game. When Bosnian civil war started fifteen years ago, many German, Austrian Nazi war criminals were still alive. Blame the Serbs (Serbs are Nazis) served two-prong purpose: to let them escape prosecutiona and to work effectively as Holocaust revisionist ploy.

False equation of Bosnia with The Holocaust works this way. If Bosnia =The Holocaust, then The Holocaust=Bosnia. And majority of public knowledge of Bosnian "attrocities" are proven to be hoaxes. So, Holocaust revisionists hope that the newxt generation will draw conclusion tabout The Holocaust (Yeah, fake, like Bosnia)

Show methe person who equates Bosnia with the Holocaust and I will show you The Holocaust revisionist in disguise.

7 posted on 06/17/2007 8:56:12 AM PDT by DTA
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Hoplite: I detect a bit of contradiction....please correct me if I’m wrong.

To wit:

Hoplite: Just like the Germans, no Bosnian Serb ever saw any of the crimes perpetrated in their midst.

Hoplite: And like the Germans, their visions of ethnic supremacy have been turned to ashes.


Hoplite: And if the Ustashe was really perpetrating genocide, why would they expel some Serbs from the NDH?

Me: And if Mladic was really perpetrating genocide, why would he expel women and children from Srebrenica?

8 posted on 06/18/2007 12:01:37 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
You just don't like that idiot Srebrenica argument shoved back down your throat in regards to the Ustashe, do you.

Good.

9 posted on 06/18/2007 12:37:53 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
[”You just don’t like that idiot Srebrenica argument shoved back down your throat in regards to the Ustashe, do you.”]

Excuse me consoler...but your’re being argumentative.

Answer what I posed.

10 posted on 06/18/2007 1:18:20 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Answer what I posed.

I have.

In other words, the point I was making was that "expulsion negates genocide" is a stupid argument. Any prudent person can see there is no contradiction.

Do you really not have the brains to see this?

11 posted on 06/18/2007 2:42:57 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
[”Do you really not have the brains to see this?”]

Yes, of course, I do Hoplite.

I would point out to that you are the one that made the original point/post in the first place....or are too stupid that you can’t see it?

Let me know if you need any help. I’ll for pay gas, dinner, or babysitter - you decide which. (sigh)

12 posted on 06/18/2007 3:27:56 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
How's about you pay attention instead?

It would eliminate your asking stupid questions and then compounding that stupidity by insisting upon an answer.

Thanks.

13 posted on 06/18/2007 4:13:23 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: DTA
You must admit it is rather amusing that the Islamists in Sarajevo didn't allow the Muslim civilians out of the city. This was admitted to by the prosecution witnesses in the Slobo trial.

About the freedom of movement of civilians at Sarajevo airport on 13th December , 92:

"Not more than several thousand people were evacuated after the signing of that agreement. There were 20 buses of Serbs and Croats, and to the best of my recollection, there were even a few Slovenes. The Serbs were evacuated via Lukavica, and some Croats. However, the Presidency did not allow a single Muslim to leave Sarajevo"

Tsk tsk! it is a rather rum affair indeed , when even your -Islamist - leadership don't want you alive.

14 posted on 06/18/2007 4:41:20 AM PDT by Barnsleys Beck
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To: Hoplite
[”How’s about you pay attention instead?’]

[”And like the Germans, their [Bosnian Serbs] visions of ethnic supremacy have been turned to ashes.”]

I am paying attention.

And, what also grabs my attention is how you can lower yourself to make the comparison (above) which is completely asinine.

15 posted on 06/18/2007 10:17:33 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
So you don't like that either, huh?

Good.

16 posted on 06/18/2007 6:26:21 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
It's a typical Holocaust revisionist policy. Making such comparisons and , as DTA remarked , not only does the shit stick -with regards to the Serbs in this case- but it demeans to the n'th degree the suffering of the Jews, Roma, Slavs, etc under the Nazis.

Also note that the VRS had no problem with Abdic's Secular Muslims in Bihac, and also take note of the Serb's allies in Kosovo: namely every minority -Rom , Egyptians , Circassians , Jews , Turks , Macedonians , Montenegrins plus 10s of 1,000s of loyalist Albanians -

Strange definition of "ethnic supremacy" methinks

Which, of course , is the whole point - it helps whitewash the crimes of the Nazis.

17 posted on 06/19/2007 7:49:09 PM PDT by Barnsleys Beck
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To: Hoplite
[”So you don’t like that either, huh?”]

Well, how about this Hoplite...

Let me know the locations of where (for example) the (a) empty cannisters of ZyclonB, (b) gas chambers, and (c) crematoriums are that the Bosnian Serbs used during the 90’s.

In so doing, I may have a different perspective on making such comparisons in the context of "ethnic supremacy."

18 posted on 06/19/2007 8:34:55 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Waste someone else's time with your strawmen arguments.

Simply calling it a "different perspective" doesn't make it any less moronic.

19 posted on 06/19/2007 10:35:51 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
[”Waste someone else’s time with your strawmen arguments.”]

Sorry Hoplite, but you made the original argument that the Bosnian Serbs actions were tantamount to that of the Waffen Schutzstaffel.

Therefore, it is incumbent on you to defend your statement-not only to me, but also to the other individuals who made similar arguments in posts #4 and #17.

20 posted on 06/19/2007 11:55:09 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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