[sam_paine]

True. But unless you're sending Cheney to a Halliburton Fundraiser, I mean, what in the world do you use him for to get people on board with a position?

Dick don't quite have the best PR ranking these days, ya know!! =)

I still go back to the point that Bush is under the gun with uberconservatives because he's not kicking things down the road. Reagan is a darling because he cut-and-ran from Beirut and actually did give millions of illegals amnesty and never did ANYTHING about border security.

Because Bush tries to do SOMETHING, he is a bad guy.

It's that simple.

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?

[RJL]

Reagan is a darling because he cut-and-ran from Beirut and actually did give millions of illegals amnesty and never did ANYTHING about border security.

Reagan had to work with a Dem Congress with powerful leadership. Bush squandered his Republican Congress and refused to work with fellow Republicans when they told him to secure the borders first.

Because Bush tries to do SOMETHING, he is a bad guy.

All Bush has to do is to stand up and say that from this day forward, America will secure her borders and enforce our current immigration laws. And then do it!

Instead he comes up with this convoluted amnesty plan, that only 20% of Americans want passed - Rasmussen Reports June 13, 2007.

It really is just that simple!

[taxed2death]

“Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?”

Border Bots?

LOL
You mean 71% of the general population?

Nice try at trying to marginalize the majority of the population of voting aged people.

It’s just reached critical mass....with 20+ million illegals now in country...filling up our schools, prisons and hospitals.

[Iwo Jima]

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?

Trying to get people to pay attention to what was happening to our country and getting called racist and all manner of vile names (border-bot being the favorite slur-du-jour) for their pains.

I didn't become what you would call a "border bot" until last year when I heard about Aztlan and Reconquista and what La Raza was saying for the first time.

Are you saying that the 1992 border bots are discredited and should be ignored because they have been so right for so long before other people saw and agreed with their points? Are you saying that 2006 border bots are discredited and should be ignored because they have been so recent in understanding that America is being destroyed?

Is there any time frame acceptable to you for people to come to the views on immigration that the vast majority of Americans now have?

What are your views on immigration, and when did you come to them?

Class? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[TomGuy]

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?

They were being put down as being tinfoil alarmists, just like those now screaming out and trying to the attention of the American public about NAU, SPP, TransHighway and the Foreign Port in Kansas City, NWO.

After 2010, when the NAU becomes effective, you and others will be crying 'why didn't someone warn us?'

[Wallace T.]

In defense of Reagan, the numbers of illegals in the United States was far smaller in 1986 (3 million) than in 2007 (12-20 million). Reagan's policy was a failure, to be sure, but what Bush has proposed would metastasize that failure, with far greater long term burdens on the taxpayers, not to mention the effect on the political system. (Most immigrant groups, from the Scots-Irish over 200 years ago to the present, have sided with the Democrats.)

Reagan did cut and run from Beirut, but so did the Israelis, who naturally had a lot more at stake. Additionally, memories of Vietnam were a lot fresher in 1983, as the fall of Saigon had occurred only eight years earlier. With a Presidential election a year away, Reagan could not have politically afforded the sort of commitment needed for a large scale invasion. Keep in mind that he was singularly committed to the defeat of the Soviet Union and we were still fully engaged in the Cold War. Committing large resources to the Middle East at that time would have diverted funds from the much needed modernization and build-up of our air and naval forces that proved so crucial in bringing about the unraveling of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union.

In retrospect, the decision by Reagan to cut and run in Lebanon helped this nation overcome our main enemy, the Soviet Union, without firing a shot. In contrast, Bush has worked in an international environment without the immediate menace of a rival superpower.

[CottonBall]

Reagan is a darling because he cut-and-ran from Beirut and actually did give millions of illegals amnesty and never did ANYTHING about border security.

You are conveniently ignoring the facts at the time of the 1986 amnesty. First, Reagan was honest and called it 'amnesty', unlike the current liar-in-chief. Second, Reagan went for the amnesty compromise because he wanted the border and workplace enforcement provisions in the bill. He believed it when the Dems said it would be the LAST amnesty ever and would solve all the illegal immigration problems. The Democratic congress then neglected to fund the enforcement provisions. Reagan later said that the bill was a big, big mistake.

Compare that to the current illegal-lover in the WH, whose intentions are the exact opposite of Reagan's.

[CottonBall]

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?

The so-called border-bots in California voted overwhelmingly for Prop. 187 over a decade ago. This issue is not new. Anything but.

[Do Be]

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone?

Yeah, and where were all these Islamic/Terrorist bots in 1932, 1954, 1927 and 1964? Anyone?

Yeah, and where were all these anti-Iraq war bots in 1955, and 1966, and 1980 and 1975? Anyone?

Bush is trying to do something alright. And fast. Against the will of American citizens. Well before the next election.

But he's not running, you say. Why would he care?

Must be part of the deal he made with whoever he sold us out to.

You border bots only know how to sing one tune, you say.

Yes. It's called Freedom, the first track on that great album called the United States of America.

[itsahoot]

Where were all these border-bots during the 2004 election? 2000? 1996? 1992? Anyone? Bueller?

We were right here getting pilloried by you Bush botts.

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[WashingtonSource]

I still go back to the point that Bush is under the gun with uberconservatives because he's not kicking things down the road. Reagan is a darling because he cut-and-ran from Beirut and actually did give millions of illegals amnesty and never did ANYTHING about border security.

Oh, my. You really have been drinking the Kool Aid.