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To: ndt

“”CO2 increases follow rather than precede warming.”

I assume you are assuming but not mentioning bounds on that statement? Because it sure does not hold true in a beaker.”

I don’t understand what you are saying. It seems to me, that is EXACTLY what happens in a beaker. Gases are more readily soluble in water as you lower the temperature. Heating water will cause the dissolved gases to leave the solution.

Since this is all about global warming, it’s worth trying to figure out the cause and effect relationship between atmospheric CO2 and global temps.

There is a strong correlation between CO2 levels and Global warming, but correlation isn’t causation. I tend to believe that increased CO2 levels is an Effect of warming rather than its cause.

The tendency for gases to come out of solutions as they are heated is a much more powerfully linked phenomenon than CO2’s effect as a greenhouse gas. Carbon Dioxide is such a minor player as a greenhouse gas that it dooesn’t make sense to consider it the cause of warming like the greenies are preaching.

I’ve read that the cycles show the warming always preceding the CO2 increase by some years which if true, pretty well settles which is cause and which is effect.


21 posted on 06/13/2007 7:23:32 PM PDT by UnChained
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To: UnChained
"I don’t understand what you are saying. It seems to me, that is EXACTLY what happens in a beaker."

Only if you put bounds on the statement as you did by specifying a particular set up (saturated solution etc).

"I tend to believe that increased CO2 levels is an Effect of warming rather than its cause."

To some degree that is true, as in the case of melting and subsequent decomposing of permafrost for example.

"The tendency for gases to come out of solutions as they are heated is a much more powerfully linked phenomenon than CO2’s effect as a greenhouse gas."

Debatable. My point was however what you just agreed to, C02 is a green house gas. The argument is not does it, it clearly does. The question is, is it enough to matter?
24 posted on 06/13/2007 7:40:34 PM PDT by ndt
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