Subject: Chertoff, Kyl, and amnesty

National Review's The Corner ^ | 6/13/07 | Anonymous e-mailer

[jhs80]

A theory, via e-mail:

Actually, Chertoff said something even more interesting yesterday. A yet unanswered question is “Why is the open borders lobby pushing for amnesty?” After all, they had it pretty good with no federal enforcement.

Chertoff and Kyl both seem to have answered that question recently, Kyl in his Wall Street Journal interview and Chertoff on Fox News yesterday: because businesses are starting to worry about efforts to enforce immigration laws at the local level. One state in the vanguard of that effort is Kyl’s (and McCain’s) home state of Arizona, where the legislature has passed numerous laws (usually vetoed) on the issue, and where the public voted for Prop 200 back in 2004.

To me that says something far more ominous than that Congress is being disingenuous or naïve on the matter. Far from simple being empty promises, this amnesty bill is actually a blatant attempt to head off any attempts at enforcement at all. After all, states and cities can’t deny services or enforce laws against illegals if the government makes them all legal.

And we all know what will happen on the enforcement front: Congress will take out a loan to buy amnesty, promising payment in the form of enforcement. Within weeks, however, Congress will file for moral bankruptcy, and get to keep their amnesty while never paying back a dime's worth of enforcement…

06/13 02:43 PM

[lonewacko_dot_com]

About a year or two ago I offered a similar explanation: they’re worried about *civil suits* from *private individuals* (or class actions), such as the one filed against Mohawk Carpet. Some states have “private attorneys general” statutes that lets private citizens file suits on matters of public interest.

[Rodney King]

26% of all agricultural workers are illegal, but, that does not mean that at any given place of agricultural employment, 26% are illegal. At many places the number is zero. At others it would be well over half.

[goodnesswins]

bump for later

[Paperdoll]

According to Roy Beck of Numbers USA, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Senate Republican Whip Trent Lott of Mississippi have succeeded in twisting nearly enough GOP arms to assure Sen Ted Kennedy that they can deliver the votes to pass his S 1348 amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens.

SO CALL SENATORS IN D.C. 202-224-3121

VOICE YOUR OBJECTIONS TO THIS BILL ONCE AGAIN.

TELL THEM TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAWS.

TELL THEM TO BUILD DUNCAN HUNTER’S DOUBLE BORDER FENCE!

[Gene Eric]

Vote with the lever on election day, vote with your wallet today.

[Theodore R.]

The deal was in from the start, and the American people will never know what hit them, drugged as they are.

[Theodore R.]

What kind of weak arms those senators must have! Just like the American people to choose such “representation”

[Brimack34]

I guess with big business money they do not need little old us to contribute. I will save my money for military funds and conservatives who will do the job rinos and rats will not do.

[Paperdoll]

Are you not an “American people”?

[Paperdoll]

>I’d rather have people like Chertoff clling me a “bigot”, than neighbors calling me “gringo”. Or “infadel!”<

Because people like Chertoff call us bigots, our neighbors WILL be calling us “gringo”. Or “infidel”!

[TheBattman]

I suggest you call up old Don Tyson in NW Arkansas - the largest Poultry producer in the US - and one of the biggest employers of illegals in the country.... It is my understanding that he is 100% in favor of amnesty (and is also speculated to be the reason Mike Huckabee is so much in love with Illegals...)

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Because people like Chertoff call us bigots, our neighbors WILL be calling us “gringo”. Or “infidel”!”

Therrrrre ya go!!

[johnny7]

“White mans burden; Lloyd my man. White man's burden... ” -Jack Torrence, 'The Shining'

[Bogtrotter52]

I received a letter (form) from Kyl today. He attempts to explain why he supports the bill. I read it, tore it up, sent it back to his office with a note telling him where to shove the pieces.

[RushLake]

I live in a lawn service neighborhood. I'm one of the very few residents who actually own and use a lawnmower. Everyone else pays someone else to do it. I have noted that, this year, most of the crews on the trucks are Mexicans, often times including the boss/driver.

As an aside, I believe that LaRaza and the "caliphate" have a lot in common as regards the US and it ain't good.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[steve8714]

I disagree. As a staffing professional, I can tell you that many companies use staffing companies to cover their use of illegals, and so they are officially clean.
Del Monte foods, for example. Many tier two auto suppliers have expressed a desire for these workers and don’t care if they are legal or not. The reason? They show up. Every day, on time, they are in the spot. However, if the staffing company does due dilligence, these days they know if the worker is using a phony SSAN.

[Chuck Dent]

I'm one of the very few residents who actually own and use a lawnmower.

Bobby, is that you? Get with the program, man. Gonzalez is handling everyone on the street these days. Carrie gave it up a few months ago; I remember him telling me how he was gonna mow his own lawn after the new Marathon III was installed. LOL

Which reminds me, I need to get Gonzalez to clean up one of our hedges...

[politeia]

I have suspected as much. The goal of the legislation is to make low-wage laborers untouchable to the law.

I believe we have proof. On another thread there is a transcript of Sen. Lindsey Graham on the today show saying in defense of Bush's amnesty: "And if Congress punts and we don't have the political will to get this done local and state government will act. There's over 1100 local laws being proposed now that would be a hodgepodge of immigration laws that would really bring this economy to our knees. "

If this is an accurate transcript then Graham has just confirmed the theory that the real purpose of Bush's push for amnesty is to preempt state and local action against illegal immigration. This is the real crisis Bush and the other political elites fear! The people may actually thwart their open borders agenda through passing laws at the local level!

This proves my long held belief that our political elites do not support or believe in our fundamental system of self-government in which the people get to decide these matters through the legislative process. Part of that process is the concept of divided government called federalism which gives the states the ability -- and more importantly, the responsibility -- to actively oppose and resist abusive and unconstitutional practices of the federal government. It works the other way as well as we witnessed during the civil rights era.

We now have a political class that has succeeded to a large degree in overturning the results of the American revolution -- self-government -- and has turned our government into a tool for furthering their own elite interests and open borders agenda. They are now attempting to stop citizens ability to influence even their own state and local governments. Basically, these elites reject the legislative authority of the American people (the basis of republican self-government which we are guarenteed in the Consitution). This is nothing less than a political coup conducted from above by Bush and the entire political and business class to substitute their own autocratic and arbitrary rule for popular self-government.

Benjamin Franklin warned us that it would be up to us to keep our republican form of government. The question is are "we the people" up to the task?

[Guenevere]

Thanks for the ping!