[3AngelaD]

Sure would like to read the rest of this. Anyone have a Roll Call subscription? LARGELY SYMBOLIC FLOOR VOTES...Are they truly such idiots that they would allow the bill to come back to the floor and vote for cloture under these circumstances, under any circumstances?

[Ingtar]

Are they truly such idiots that they would allow the bill to come back to the floor and vote for cloture under these circumstances, under any circumstances?

Sadly, I'm thinking the answer is "yes."

[Ouderkirk]

IF this immigration/amnesty bill passes and the GOP supported it...I am going to have to part company with the GOP. It pains me to do so, but they have left me no choice. Gotta start a national Conservative Party.

[MrEdd]

meet the ultimatum

[CindyDawg]

Who do these Republicans think they are? Democrats?

[SIDENET]

bookmark

[sourcery]

We're the ones giving the ultimatum here: You vote for cloture, you don't return to the Senate after the next election!

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

I Like Ike.

The immigration giveaway

Take the Pledge: "I pledge to never, ever vote for anyone, for any office, who votes in favor of the Mexican Invasion Surrender Bill."

[BienHoa69-70 RVN]

I must not have been paying attention. Can someone show me when and where true conservatives were part of the process that gave birth to S.1348?

[Maynerd]

Bush and the republican leadership are suicidal. The bad news is they will be taking the rest of the country with them.

[dirtboy]

Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year, GOP lawmakers and aides said Tuesday...

These a-holes would rather split the party than take the common-sense approach of enforcement first.

Time to take our party back, boys and girls. And if we can't take it back, it is time to cut off the pro-illegal contingent of the party and build a coalition of the willing between conservatives and Dems who are also appalled at illegal immigration (and there are plenty - the GOP mayor of Hazelton who pushed for anti-illegal ordinances won the GOP primary AND the Dem primary with write-ins).

We will prevail. If not here, then in 2008.

[sheana]

They are trying to blackmail the American public with border security and now trying to blackmail the senators who don’t agree with this bill.

Heckuva way to run the government. They all disgust me.

[jpl]

Listen up, and listen good all you pretend Republican “leaders”: the conservative Senators are our true representatives, and you don’t give them ultimatums, we give you the ultimatums!

[Guenevere]

Pray for the senate conservatives who are trying to hold our nation for US!....who are trying to stop this!
They are being tempted beyond measure....to acquiesce, to comply.

Continue calling, emails, letters, fax.

For mercy sakes, now is the time to PRAY!

[gubamyster]

ping

[2banana]

BRING IT ON!!!

[ishabibble]

Here’s my ultimatum:

BUILD THE DUNCAN HUNTER FENCE TODAY
DEPORT THE IMPRISONED ILLEGALS TODAY
APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING ME A BIGOT RIGHT NOW

...then we can talk.

[RJL]

Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year

Sounds tough, but is it a promise or a threat?

If I were a Senator, I would be glad to be seen as having no part in putting together this horrible legislation.

[The Blitherer]

How do you say “Screw you” in Spanish.

[gpapa]

Whether the conservatives opposed to cloture can be shut out of participating in the process of producing a bill or not, there are still Senators on the other side of the aisle who oppose the bill in its present form due to the ‘guest worker’ portions of the bill opposed by the AFL-CIO. There happens to be at least one member of the group opposed to cloture who knows full well how the Senate can be tied up in knots with arcane parliamentary procedures, i. e., democrat Senator Byrd of West Virginia. Unless the ‘guest workers’ of the bill can somehow be removed from the bill it is going no where. In return, the Pubbies, at least the rinos, will not let go of the additional visa quotas that are part of the bill, including the new Z visas for illegals currently residing in the country. Therefore the impasse will continue. As a backstop, even if the Senate should miraculously pass a bill close to what it is now, there is much more opposition on both sides of the aisle in the House to such a proposal, and it thus die on the vine there as well.

[P-40]

The Conservatives need to start *giving* some ultimatums.

[RJL]

Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year

Sounds tough, but is this a promise or a threat?

If I were a Senator, I would be glad to be seen as having no part in this horrible legislation.