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Boeing to score big 787 order in Paris
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | June 12, 2007 10:47 p.m. PT | JAMES WALLACE

Posted on 06/12/2007 11:08:59 PM PDT by skeptoid

In what will be seen by many in the industry as a stinging rebuke for Airbus and its planned A350 jetliner, its biggest customer is expected to place an order for as many as 50 of The Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliners at next week's Paris Air Show, an industry source confirmed Tuesday night. ...SNIP.... ....Steve Udvar-Hazy, its founder and chief executive, told the P-I last week at an industry conference in Vancouver, B.C., that he has not been given enough details about the A350 to decide whether he wants the plane.

Instead, Hazy will order additional 787s, the industry source said.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aero; airbus; dreamliner; orders
And the Journal quoted Hazyas saying:

"We sent the first A350 to the cemetery, and many months later, Airbus still hasn't provided the kind of details that would make us rush to place an order."

1 posted on 06/12/2007 11:09:03 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: Paleo Conservative

PING


2 posted on 06/12/2007 11:10:33 PM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: skeptoid

“John Leahy, the Airbus sales chief and its top commercial officer, recently said he is counting on airlines to wait those five extra years for the A350 XWB because it is a better plane than the 787.”

He said while smoking the crackpipe.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 11:18:21 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: skeptoid

Boeing sure seems to have come back nicely in the last couple of years - without the massive amounts of government cash that its rival receives. I’m sure glad that I live where capitalism rewards those whose risks pay off...


4 posted on 06/13/2007 1:20:42 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: skeptoid

Does anybody, anywhere serioiusly believe the A350XWB will be out by 2013?

I, personally, don’t think the A350XWB will fly at all. The amount of investment is too large and the potential return from a “me too” aircraft is too small to be justified even under Airbus’ somewhat irrational strategic scheme.

The Europeans are just finishing up throwing Billions and Billions of Euros down a rat-hole to make the last Grand Socialist Vision, the A380, fly. They are not going to be eager to repeat the process with this A350XWB vaporware.


5 posted on 06/13/2007 3:31:46 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: skeptoid
Steve Udvar-Hazy, its founder and chief executive

Key excerpt omission:

Details of the likely order by Los Angeles-based International Lease Finance Corp., the world's biggest airplane leasing business, were first reported Tuesday night by The Wall Street Journal.

6 posted on 06/13/2007 3:40:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: jebeier
The Europeans are just finishing up throwing Billions and Billions of Euros down a rat-hole to make the last Grand Socialist Vision, the A380, fly. They are not going to be eager to repeat the process with this A350XWB vaporware.

Airbus is the European Full Employment Program and will continue to munch euros as long as there are politicians in the EU.

7 posted on 06/13/2007 3:41:49 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: jebeier
The A350XWB will fly....on paper.


8 posted on 06/13/2007 6:40:23 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Thanks for the clarification, a little too much excerting was done.


9 posted on 06/13/2007 6:44:12 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: skeptoid
While many make a big deal about ILFC and Udvar-Hazy, the truth is he is a financing company, not an airline. It is like saying Countrywide is the biggest customer of housing contractors.

The airlines decide what airplane they want, based on operational requirements, and then ILFC buys the planes and leases them to the airline.

ILFC will be happy to buy A350s if one if its customers wants to lease A350s.

But an advantage ILFC has now is it will own precious manufacturing slots for the 787.

That said, the big ILFC order is probably related to one or more major airlines' decision to operate the 787.

Both American Airlines and US Airways have been rumored to be close to selecting the 787.

Delta also has not made a decision, and as the largest operator of 767s, it will need more replacements than most airlines.

American and Delta alone could count for over 200 787s orders based on one for one replacements of their existing 767 and A300 aircraft.

10 posted on 06/16/2007 11:31:56 AM PDT by magellan
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