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Communism destroyed millions of lives, but its critics are now branded "neocons".
New Statesman ^ | 07 June 2007 | Robert Service

Posted on 06/12/2007 11:33:36 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

This is funny, because neocons are not anti-communist. LOL my laugh for the day.


21 posted on 06/12/2007 12:46:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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I believe other than idiots, communism is widely discredited, at least in the USA.

Socialism, however, is not. Socialism is Communism with a good PR firm. Socialism is Communism + Democracy, which makes it all ok, I guess.

So far the elected communists (socialists) have not used gulags, trains, etc. to enforce their fevered visions. The poster above expects Hillary to act like a Communist, but I kinda doubt it. I think she will just continue to raise taxes, pass more and more laws constraining individual behaviour (from smoking, to zoning, to guns) and yes, maybe even get Talk Radio reigned in, but do all of it just using 'normal' mechanisms.

Because we live in a Post-Constitutional Republic there is really no bounds on what laws can be passed. What can go wrong, will. But I don't think Hillary will become dictator for life or end elections.

22 posted on 06/12/2007 12:51:43 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: hedgetrimmer

They are. The first generation of the “original neocons” used to be Trotskyists in their younger years, however during the cold war the neocons were staunchly anti-soviet.


23 posted on 06/12/2007 12:52:05 PM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: SolidWood

They are not anti-communism. That’s different from being anti-soviet.

They love the Chicoms and how chinese slave labor camps advance their hedge funds.

They find the soviets, read Putin, their rival for global domination of the economy, that’s why they don’t like him in particular.


24 posted on 06/12/2007 12:54:31 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Communism was just a trick for scupulous men to use the “have nots” as a tool to gain power.


25 posted on 06/12/2007 12:55:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Edward Watson
Utopia (from Greek: οὐ no, and τόπος, place, i.e. "no place" or "place that does not exist")
26 posted on 06/12/2007 1:07:49 PM PDT by woollyone (NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF ...Think you can't quit? Yes you can! ...whyquit.com...read it!)
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To: Jack Black
Sweden has not had Gulags. Hillary wants to turn the USA into Sweden, not the USSR.

Right now I don't see anyone really opposing her in succeeding at that. Certainly Bush2 has not done much to slow the advance of Socialism in America. Sadly.

27 posted on 06/12/2007 1:19:30 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

When did Hillary every visit Sweden? She has visited China many times, and her brand of communism is more aligned with China than Sweden.


28 posted on 06/12/2007 1:25:04 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: neverdem
"Vietnam and China without anyone denying that the economic future lies with capitalism"

As long as we provide the capital, they love capitalism.

29 posted on 06/12/2007 1:29:28 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: hedgetrimmer
So you think she is going to outlaw the Republican party? I don't think so. I think she wants to be the elder spokesperson for a 30 year socialist power run. Think of Treadeu in Canada, or the occassionaly changing "two socialist party" stasis of places like France and Denmark.

That's her game, and she's winning.

30 posted on 06/12/2007 1:29:56 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
So you think she is going to outlaw the Republican party?

Why should she? The neocons have effectively destroyed it. No need for her to waste the bandwitdh.

How will the integration of Canada and Mexico with the US help her? I'm curious. She's not a power-player with the Mexican elite as far as I know, and they are calling the shots on the NAU right now.
31 posted on 06/12/2007 1:34:29 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Why should she? The neocons have effectively destroyed it. No need for her to waste the bandwitdh. "

Score! Hopefully the neocons will migrate back to their Democrast roots and destroy them again.

32 posted on 06/12/2007 1:40:02 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: bassmaner

“And the USA, if a DemocRAT is elected POTUS next year.”

Hysterical hyperbole aside, we will survive.


33 posted on 06/12/2007 2:49:52 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: SolidWood
>>>From now on it’s Neocon vc. Neocom... LOL.<<<

Thanks...I remember thinking as I typed it..."thats got a nice ring to it, wonder if it might catch on".

I'll try it out on the liberals at the coffee shop when I get a chance....I'll let you know if I survive the fireworks.

34 posted on 06/12/2007 5:02:04 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: All; neverdem

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FREEDOM =

The Right to say “NO” to Communism

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FREEDOM’s Loss =

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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35 posted on 06/12/2007 8:53:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: SolidWood

Irving Kristol more or less invented neoconservatism, so why not see how he defined it:

http://tinyurl.com/k773


36 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:18 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: pissant

http://tinyurl.com/k773


37 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:50 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: bassmaner
Venezuela, Nicaruaga, Zimbabwe, Nepal - communism is actually on the rise again in various backwaters. Still wrecking everything it touches, and embarassed to call itself what it is in some places.
38 posted on 06/12/2007 8:56:07 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: familyop

“That would describe the families of many who call themselves “paleo-conservatives.””

Talk about getting it all backwards.


39 posted on 06/12/2007 8:58:08 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: HardStarboard; ALOHA RONNIE; All

Neocom might be tough on the hard of hearing. They might hear Neocon with their bad hearing. Maybe Neocommies?


40 posted on 06/12/2007 8:59:08 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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