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To: speekinout
“With the exception of a few minor details (like time limits on registering - you’re far more generous with time limits than this bill is), what’s different between what you want and what the bill does?
Did you get your objections from reading about the bill, or from the hysteria of talk radio?”

I broke it up into three sections.

1. Border security first. A-hole Lott already declared today he would gut any amendments of actual border security measures during conference. He openly bragged about it.

2.My proposal of guest worker program is not automatically linked to a “pathway to citizenship”.......get it?

NO automatic “pathway to citizenship”!!!!!!! A no brainer. No compelling reason to join the two.

3.No “instant” Z visas. None.

4. Thorough background checks for all applicants.

5. Any illegals wanting to emigrate must get at the back of the line. We have a LEGAL means to emigrate to the US. USE it!
They can then only get 5 year legal residency visas. Must be reviewed every 5 years. No voting rights, Never. That is their “amnesty”.

My “objections” are drawn from common sense. I do not listen to talk radio, the steel roof in my shop prevents radio reception from all but the local “classic rock” blather. I do not listen to Rush or any of the other so called conservatives.

767 posted on 06/13/2007 7:00:17 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
1. Border security first. A-hole Lott already declared today he would gut any amendments of actual border security measures during conference. He openly bragged about it.

What do you mean by "border security"? Building a fence along the Mexican border is expensive, and not effective. Most illegal immigrants simply overstay visas; other come over the Canadian border, through ports, or just land a floating creation on the coast. IMO, that fence is a colossal waste of money, never mind the impact on the environment or the livelihoods of the people who live on the US side.

2.My proposal of guest worker program is not automatically linked to a “pathway to citizenship”.......get it?
NO automatic “pathway to citizenship”!!!!!!! A no brainer. No compelling reason to join the two.

Exactly. And the bill says explicitly that guest workers don't have a path to citizenship.

3.No “instant” Z visas. None.

And there aren't any. This is the most misunderstood part of the bill. People who have been here for years and can prove that they've been continually working can apply for a Z visa. If they don't have a criminal record (easily verified), they can get probationary status, and have their Z visa application processed. They can stay until the visa is processed.
And the length of time that will take is the issue many have. It's not clear that those will happen in a timely manner.

4. Thorough background checks for all applicants.

Yes, that's in the bill.

5. Any illegals wanting to emigrate must get at the back of the line.

Yes, that's also part of the bill (I assume you mean immigrate). The estimate is that it would take 10-14 years for someone currently illegal to get consideration for citizenship.

Read the bill - or at least accurate representations of what it is. It's got everything you say you want, except the huge fence, and I really think you should rethink that. That's an emotional item, not a rational one.

768 posted on 06/13/2007 7:25:10 PM PDT by speekinout
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