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ScubieNuc writes:
Fair enough. But if you had to answer the question today "Does America have the will to stay in Afghanistan and Iraq until they are secure and self-governing, even it it takes 40 years?" Would you answer "yes?"

My answer?

Yes, of course. And we must be prepared to do the same with EVERY OTHER currently-Islamic nation on Earth. That is, go in, overpower the government, vanquish the mullahs, outlaw Islam, and "de-Islamicize" those nations, with the will to remain for as long as the struggle takes.

Yes, of course. It's the only way we will ever WIN this struggle. Anything more is merely buying time or treading water before the inevitable.

The reason we have reached the point we're at in Iraq is because we failed to understand just WHO or WHAT "the enemy" really is. Yes, Saddam was part of it and he had to be deposed. But he is not - repeat, NOT - the primary opponent in this worldwide struggle.

Our REAL enemy has been dead for 1400 years, but one who continues to fight on through the people entrapped within the ideology he created.

So long as he - or to put it more correctly, his "religion" - lives within people, we will grapple with his threat to our civilization.

Bear in mind, however, that when I answered your question above, it was strictly MY answer.

- John

Will _America_ reach the point where she answers affirmatively, as well? Frankly, I'm not optimistic; I hope I'm proved wrong. I fear that it will take an unspeakable calamity on our soil before America wakes up, and, by that time, the damage to the fabric of our nation and culture may be so devastating that representative government itself may have to be set aside for a while. We will see.

I think you and I are on the same page. I believe there is a segment of America (that would include me) that has the will right now, today, to stick to it for as long as possible to get the job done. BUT, I believe that the majority of Americans don't truely understand what it will take to defeat the Islamic terrrorists. (I think it would take nuking Mecca and Medina.) Since our leaders are elected by the majority, I fear that America will withdraw from both Iraq and Afghanistan before this Islamic threat is neutralized.

I'd be surprised if any of the current Presidental candidates for 2008 have the will or desire to do everything necessary to complete the missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Because of that, I fear America is on the verge of pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Scubie