[Calpernia]

I read them 5 years and 3 computers ago. That specific link I won’t even try to find. There was a translation up at the white House, so that should be good enough.

[PapaBear3625]

So you're operating off of vague 5-year-old memory of passages, while I'm posting translations that are currently available. I've got the Quran in yet another translation sitting on my bookshelf. The translations differ in minor ways on wording, but are fairly consistent in their essential meaning

The hadith are even less ambiguous. They paint a picture of Mohammad as a murderous, raping caravan robber. And this is the ideal that all Muslims are to aspire to?