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To: magslinger

>>>>I thought that only the Arabic was considered the true text and that all translations were considered inaccurate. Am I mistaken in this?

This was Arabic. That was my point in my first post saying there isn’t a literal translation of Arabic.


34 posted on 06/11/2007 3:10:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
"This was Arabic. That was my point in my first post saying there isn’t a literal translation of Arabic."

It doesn't matter. As I pointed out, the meaning is based on Mohammads actions anyway. The Koran wasn't even written in Arabic until 200 years after Mohammad's death. Arabic wasn't even a language during Mohammads life, it was in it's verbal infancy. The main language was Syriac.(don't know if thats the correct spelling) and in fact many of the "Arabic" words in the Koran are actually syriac. But again, it doesn't matter, because the meaning can be determined by the record of Mohammads actions. Ishaq's Sira (Biography) is the earliest and ONLY record of Mohammads life. The Sirat Rasul Allah was written by Ibn Ishaq in 750 A.D. It was edited and abridged by Ibn Hisham in 830 and translated by Alfred Guillaume under the title, The Life of Muhammad in 1955 by Oxford Press. Referred to as the Sira, or Biography, Ishaq’s Hadith Collection consists of oral reports from Muhammad and his companions. It provides the only written account of Muhammad’s life and the formation of Islam composed within two centuries of the prophet’s death. There is no earlier or more accurate source.

It's available for about $29 if you care to learn what Islam really is.

As far as thye Koran goes, translations by- Ahmed Ali, Pickthal, Yusuf Ali, and Shakir represent the five most respected and universally accepted Muslim translations of Allah's book. They pretty much say the same thing. If you see a non violent Koran, then it's a deception.

Besides, no Koran makes sense without knowing the order in which to read it, which is why you need the hadith (Sirat Rasul Allah) to organise it and understand the circustances surrounding Mohammads "revelation" of the particular sura. Here's a good organized Koran with hadiththe Qur'an in chronological order and in the context of Muhammad's life as it is known through Ishaq's Sira (Biography) and Tabari's Ta'rikh (History)

43 posted on 06/11/2007 10:58:26 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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