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To: AppyPappy
How many criminal statutes regarding sex with minors talk about the “age of consent?” You will not find that phrase anywhere in the criminal code in my state, or in any other part of the code for that matter. None of the criminal statutes dealing with sex with minors even mention the word “consent” where they talk about sex with minors. I’ve seen other state statutes on these crimes as well and those I’ve seen from other states haven’t talked about consent either. They only talk about the age of the people involved. Consent really isn’t even an issue. The only time the issue of consent is going to come up in a sex crime case is in a rape case (involving an alleged victim 14 or older) where the defense argues that the sex was consensual and therefore not rape. If the victim is under the age of 14 it’s rape whether it was consensual or not. From age 14 through age 16 while the code doesn’t talk about consent, if it’s consensual it’s going to be sexual assault rather than rape.

If we step out of the legal mumbo jumbo for a second, do I believe a normal 15 year old girl is capable of consenting to sex with a 17 year old boy? Heck yeah. She’s as capable of giving consent as he is. Shoot, most 15 year old girls are more mature than 17 year old boys.

In your mind, if a 15 year old girl has sex with a 17 year old boy, she must have just been awed by this older fellow and he’s completely taking advantage of her. That may be the case sometimes, but often it’s not going to be like that at all. I was 17 when I lost my virginity. The girl I was with was barely 16 and she was way more experienced than I was. She was hot too. I was in awe of her. She’s the one who initiated it. She had the condoms. I was a little in shock. I wasn’t upset about it mind you but I think what was really happening there was she was taking advantage of me, not the other way around. I think it is a two way street. A couple of years difference doesn’t matter that much. Girls can take advantage of boys just like boys can take advantage of girls, and probably more often than not no one is really taking advantage of the other person. It’s just two people doing what comes naturally.

250 posted on 06/11/2007 2:54:02 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

Can a 15 year old boy consent to sex with a 17 year old boy. What about with an 18 year old man?

It isn’t like statutory rape laws were drawn up over night. They’ve been on the books a long time and are slowly being whittled away.

So if they are going to be “whittled”, what standard do you propose? Is there a limit at which you can be firm?


255 posted on 06/11/2007 4:07:19 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: TKDietz
do I believe a normal 15 year old girl is capable of consenting to sex with a 17 year old boy? Heck yeah.

OK. What about a 50 year-old man? Is she capable of consenting to sex with him?

270 posted on 06/11/2007 5:49:41 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TKDietz
In your mind,

Oh look, a strawman.

271 posted on 06/11/2007 5:50:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TKDietz

You are absolutely correct. It is ridiculous to put a boy away for consensual sex with a girl about two years younger.


340 posted on 06/12/2007 8:10:07 AM PDT by nyconse
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