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Helicopter Shield Invention Gets Attention Of U.S. Military
Newhouse News ^ | 7/10/2007 | Kevin Coughlin

Posted on 06/11/2007 9:43:06 AM PDT by Incorrigible

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I wish him the best of luck with this but it doesn't look like he's gone far beyond the idea stage on these inventions.

 

1 posted on 06/11/2007 9:43:10 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible

This seems like a counter-measure that would be easy to counter. You simply fire your RPGs in a timed and regular series until your target exhausts his complement of rocket-nets.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 9:48:24 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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Not sure no one did this before, at our archery range we had a mesh back drop that could stop bolts and arrows, it looked like a nylon fish net...


3 posted on 06/11/2007 9:49:53 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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It could still raise the survivability of the helicopter.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 9:50:26 AM PDT by El Sordo
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” Win over the civilians, he says, and maybe nobody will shoot any RPGs.”

What is this guy smoking???? If building schools, hospitals, clean water facilities and sewage treatment plants as well as ousting the murderous tyrant and his sons that killed Lord knows how many of them doesn’t stop them from shooting down helicopters, how is dropping free kevlar nets on them going to help???

5 posted on 06/11/2007 9:55:48 AM PDT by silver charm (Duncan Hunter '08)
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Yep! If it doesn't guarantee 100% effectiveness all of the time, we should just throw up our hands and say "forget about it"!

Right?

6 posted on 06/11/2007 9:56:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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Win over the civilians, he says, and maybe nobody will shoot any RPGs.

Yes, Maj. Kimball, that worked really well in Viet Nam, didn't it.

It's a good thing we didn't have officers with this mindset running World War II, or we'd be speaking German and Japanese.

Rewarding your friends is fine, but you have to punish your enemies to make it really work.

7 posted on 06/11/2007 9:57:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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Enough shots would bring it down naturally. A lot of RPGs hits come from “cheap shots” — one or two 3rd world dirtbags who carry only their rifles on them and maybe a bigger weapon (like an RPG launcher).


8 posted on 06/11/2007 9:58:16 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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I’d like one of those net thingies to control my daughter’s cat!


9 posted on 06/11/2007 10:01:27 AM PDT by llevrok (Mexico? Pffft!!! Build a wall between Alaska and Canada, Now!)
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It could still raise the survivability of the helicopter.

Correct. In WW2, the gadget added to tanks to plow through hedge rows was a soldier with an idea and a welding torch.

Was it perfect? Nope. Did the job simply tho....

10 posted on 06/11/2007 10:04:03 AM PDT by llevrok (Mexico? Pffft!!! Build a wall between Alaska and Canada, Now!)
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Skynet, literally.

"Twenty years ago, if you said that 5 milliseconds after a car accident we'll inflate this big air bag in front of you, people probably would have called the cops on you.''

Incorrect, but appropriate example. Twenty years ago, the guys who were developing the systems knew that the bag would take the test dummy's head off if it was too close. Way out ideas with great promise require extra care in weeding out the unintended consequences.

11 posted on 06/11/2007 10:06:38 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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What about a parachute when a helicopter goes into free-fall?

They have them for small planes now, and they’ve saved a few lives. You’d have to put the ‘chute right in the center of the rotor, probably, and it would spin with the blades.

Actually, you could even have it come out the side of the craft. The helicopter would land sideways, but that may be better than landing upright at Vi + 9.8m/s^2 * t.


12 posted on 06/11/2007 10:08:17 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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“This seems like a counter-measure that would be easy to counter. You simply fire your RPGs in a timed and regular series until your target exhausts his complement of rocket-nets.”

Well, as a former helicopter pilot, I would say I, personally, would not be hanging around long enough to run out (or I would turn and let fly Hell and damnation, depending on my mood, mission, and load).


13 posted on 06/11/2007 10:12:59 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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Well, as a former helicopter pilot, I would say I, personally, would not be hanging around long enough to run out (or I would turn and let fly Hell and damnation, depending on my mood, mission, and load).
Oh, good point. I wasn't thinking like a pilot. I suppose you fire your net and throw yourself half-speed a-stern. Oh, wait, that's not thinking like a pilot either. I'm joking. Your point is still a good one.
14 posted on 06/11/2007 10:15:54 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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And when you bring down the first chopper equipped with these, you now have a new toy to shoot at the choppers.
Kelvlar Net’s into the intake or tail rotor anyone.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 10:21:38 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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Exactly what I’m thinking. I’m pretty sure some ‘defended pads’ use a very similiar system based on line throwing guns.


16 posted on 06/11/2007 10:23:48 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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Yes just in time for the ‘copter to turn the guns on them


17 posted on 06/11/2007 10:26:54 AM PDT by 70th Division (If we loose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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My idea is a micro Phalanx system using a .223 caliber gun instead of the 30mm gun they now use.

If you have a fast computer and a remote control gun you can make an anti rocket system on many platforms like tanks, planes and helicopters.

There is no reason this could not be done. The software is already done; you only need a 100 yard range so a small bullet is OK.

This would make all subsonic missiles obsolete.

The bullets will pose a threat to the ground forces so for close in protection a shotgun style system might be better.

Some one should make a BB gun prototype on a scale model at home so the government doesn’t spend 100 million to determine that it’s too expensive to make.


18 posted on 06/11/2007 10:41:49 AM PDT by Goldwater and Gingrich
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Maybe, but if there are escorts, the RPG grenadier gets ONE shot, then the sky falls on him.

However, you have the right idea. The RPG grenade, if it fails to hit a target, is set up to detonate at a certain distance. The terrorists have gotten a lot of experience at launching RPGs to take advantage of that.
I’m waiting for some Commie genius to come up with a proximity fused RPG to make our chopper pilots even MORE miserable.

19 posted on 06/11/2007 10:47:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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This seems like a counter-measure that would be easy to counter. You simply fire your RPGs in a timed and regular series until your target exhausts his complement of rocket-nets.

... proving yet again that if the counter-measure to your counter-measure is cheaper then the entire exercise is a waste of time. 6 choppers out of 61 downed by enemy fire? How many were due to RPG's alone? 3? 4? Are we sure that we want to put our efforts into countering a dumb weapon with a low hit rate and a lower PK?

20 posted on 06/11/2007 10:48:19 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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