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Thompson Heads West (Fred Alert!)
NY Times ^ | June 10, 2007 | Katharine Q. Seelye

Posted on 06/10/2007 11:14:04 AM PDT by Josh Painter

As he prepares to announce his candidacy for president, probably sometime next month, former Senator Fred Thompson is on a persuasion tour this week, not a listening tour.

He heads to California, where his itinerary includes a series of private meetings at the conservative Hoover Institution, a public policy research center at Stanford University. Advisers say he hopes to win the backing of some of Hoover’s influential fellows. One of those fellows, George P. Shultz, the former Secretary of State in the Reagan administration, is already backing Senator John McCain, citing the steadfastness of his character and likening him to Ronald Reagan.

Still, Mr. Thompson senses an opening for himself among the Hooverites. Two research fellows recently wrote an op-ed for USA Today in which they said conservatives were “feeling glum” that none of the Republicans so far was offering the right message. They said they want a conservative who would: secure the nation’s borders against illegal immigrants; make government smaller; and offer “unapologetic support of Judeo-Christian morals and values.” If Mr. Thompson’s pre-campaign speeches are any indication, he seems to think he can fill that bill.

After Mr. Thompson works his powers of persuasion at Hoover, he gets to try them out on a different audience _ the viewers of the Jay Leno show. The Leno audience may not be looking for the same qualities that the Hoover crowd is seeking, but Mr. Thompson’s task in Burbank on Tuesday night boils down to the same thing: Can he sell himself?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: elections; fred; fredthompson; georgeshultz; gop; hooverinstitution; mccain
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1 posted on 06/10/2007 11:14:09 AM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: Sturm Ruger

2 posted on 06/10/2007 11:14:51 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Sturm Ruger

If Thomas Sowell gets behind Fred, he’ll probably be my guy.


3 posted on 06/10/2007 11:17:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (A)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Can he sell himself?

Can he sell himself?

From the Hoover Institution to the Tonight Show ~ from veeps to peeps ~ Fred is the spoonful of sugar this country needs.

Fred is good medicine.

4 posted on 06/10/2007 11:21:27 AM PDT by b9
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To: Dick Bachert

Fred has already been quoting Sowell recently.


5 posted on 06/10/2007 11:26:05 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: Sturm Ruger
already backing Senator John McCain, citing the steadfastness of his character and likening him to Ronald Reagan. (Schultz)

I think I'm going to be ill -

6 posted on 06/10/2007 12:10:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Sturm Ruger
They said they want a conservative who would: secure the nation’s borders against illegal immigrants; make government smaller; and offer “unapologetic support of Judeo-Christian morals and values.”

Can one or more of Fred's supporters offer me ONE example of Mr. Thompson, in either spoken or written form, doing this? [what I bolded]

I'm curious, since not a single example springs to mind.

As to one and two? I'm highly skeptical. I've seen a candidate so far who is hedging his words very carefully on the first one at least. And I personally suspect that on number two his choice of moderate personnel in his campaign and prospective administration would tend towards Bush redux, ie continued big spending into infinity, or at least until financial meltdown.

7 posted on 06/10/2007 12:23:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

And I personally suspect that on number two his choice of moderate personnel in his campaign and prospective administration would tend towards Bush redux, ie continued big spending into infinity, or at least until financial meltdown.


He has been communication the principles of federalism far more effectively than any other candidate, and better than just about any elected official since Reagan. His voting record proves this (look for his lone dissent votes 99-1).

I’ll let others address your religious concerns, but Fred is the Anti-Bush on federal spending when compared to the other contenders.


8 posted on 06/10/2007 1:11:12 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: Dick Bachert

Any comment from the Fredheads on Ann Coulter's criticism of his impeachment votes on Hannity & Colmes June 5th? To what Ann said I would add one thing. Long time Freepers will recall that the key Clinton impeachment mystery was the Ted Kennedy-Phil Gramm move to a closed session resulting in the secret 100-0 vote to changed the Senate rules from the default of a real trial to the fiasco we endured. The GOP may not have had the votes to remove him, but they had the votes to keep him from laughing it off and chose not to use them. Every GOP senator then serving still owes us an explanation for that vote, especially those wanting to run against his wife. So far we've heard zilch from them all, including from McCain and Brownback. Fred did vote to convict on one count, for which I give due credit, although he had to know 67 votes weren't going to be there. On the hard vote, the one that could and should have passed and would have made a difference, Fred and his fellow 'jurors' took things as seriously as the OJ jury.

9 posted on 06/10/2007 1:11:46 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: EternalVigilance

I think that is a fair question. I have not personally researched much on this issue. However, I did read an article recently that Fred was a fairly big supporter of Israel. Those are not the exact quotes, but I got the impression that he was. It certainly raised my eyebrows. I would like to see someone in office that is an avid supporter of Israel. Just my two cents.


10 posted on 06/10/2007 2:35:20 PM PDT by not bad at all (Let's unite and win in 08)
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To: maine-iac7

Proves that Shultz has gone senile...


11 posted on 06/10/2007 2:45:25 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: b9

;)


12 posted on 06/10/2007 2:46:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: EternalVigilance

One, he’s been quite clear on. Two is VERY evident in his record and I agree, he’s not a bible thumper and never has been. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t support and live by Judeo-Christian moral standards, but he certainly isn’t making a big deal out of it.


13 posted on 06/10/2007 2:47:14 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Fred Thompson. AKA: POTUS 44)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Nothing like holding a grudge, eh?


14 posted on 06/10/2007 2:47:36 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: b9

If he wants BIG coverage he will visit Paris in jail.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 2:50:47 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: xcamel
Nothing like holding a grudge, eh?

I'm a FredHead, but I think it's fine that questions like this are asked here.

Long time Freepers will recall that the key Clinton impeachment mystery was the Ted Kennedy-Phil Gramm move to a closed session resulting in the secret 100-0 vote to changed the Senate rules from the default of a real trial to the fiasco we endured. The GOP may not have had the votes to remove him, but they had the votes to keep him from laughing it off and chose not to use them. Every GOP senator then serving still owes us an explanation for that vote, especially those wanting to run against his wife. So far we've heard zilch from them all, including from McCain and Brownback.

I would much rather see this debated instead of whether Fred's wife dress was modest enough. I have my own idea as to why this happened, but would like to hear Fred's answer.

16 posted on 06/10/2007 2:53:47 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: greyfoxx39
Fred only has to answer for himself - which he already has. IIRC - Fred was personally "gravely concerned" about the fallout of impeachment/removal of clintoon - leaving AlGore (mentally unstable) in his place. What Dead Kennedy and Phil Crammit did to cause that vote and it's result is up to them to explain.
17 posted on 06/10/2007 3:06:53 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: xcamel
Fred only has to answer for himself - which he already has. IIRC - Fred was personally "gravely concerned" about the fallout of impeachment/removal of clintoon - leaving AlGore (mentally unstable) in his place.

Good to know he has answered..do you have a source? We should be prepared to counter this kind of question. I'm sure you haven't missed the "seminar" anti-Freds here.

18 posted on 06/10/2007 3:11:32 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: xcamel

Clinton earned that grudge as did the AWOL (Absent WithOut Leadership) Senate. I’m especially annoyed by Phil Gramm for joining with Ted Kennedy. Gramm had been my favorite Senator and had been my presidential candidate in the 1996 primary season. The two or three (if Fred gets in) running on our side may or may not have said good things in that secret closed session, no outsiders know what happened. We know more about Rosemary Wood’s 18 minute alleged gap than we know about this key point in our history but the political class and the media’s reaction to this has been to bury it. The truth needs to be known for the good of the system. It is the same issue as with the break in Paris Hilton’s jail time, special treatment under the law. Everyone should be equal before the law, but Bill Clinton looked like he received special treatment to those who were really following the case. Before the 100-0 vote Bill Clinton was going to tried under the Senate procedures devised for Andrew Johnson’s trial as updated by Democrats in preparation for trying Nixon and most recently Reagan. Instead the prosecution, from the House, was prevented from presenting their case. The allegations were no more salacious than those the media massively covers on the celebrity beat. There was no obvious non-political reason to hold a real trial. What’s the worst that could have happened? President Al Gore for the rest of the term and eligible for two full terms. I wasn’t afraid of that, why were the Democrats afraid of it?


19 posted on 06/10/2007 3:18:43 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: greyfoxx39

I believe it’s in the “Fred wiki”

http://fredthompsonfaq.com/tiki-index.php?


20 posted on 06/10/2007 3:19:25 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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