Posted on 06/10/2007 9:29:31 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
If you like bi-partisan compromise and “progress” in the form of more legislation, you’re going to love this…
Since pretty much every member of congress seems convinced that simple enforcement of the existing immigration laws (that they passed) won’t work, and that rights for illegal aliens is a higher priority than the rights of legal law abiding Americans, some form of amnesty is bound to pass sooner or later.
Despite Washington’s marathon effort to screw the American citizen, the Wall Street Journal reports, “By a vote of 33-63, the Senate fell far short of the 60 votes that would have been needed to limit debate on the immigration measure and put it on a path to passage. Republicans -- even those who helped craft the measure and are expected to support it -- banded together to oppose that move, while a majority of Democrats backed it.”
But they will be back, we know this… So we need to cut a deal while we still can.
I propose a single simple amendment to the amnesty bill that might make amnesty acceptable for most Americans, members of congress not included most likely.
(Excerpt) Read more at greatamericanjournal.com ...
Since when do you need an invitation? The minute men didn’t need one...
Would EVERYONE please read this guy!!!
In 1898, the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark declared that the Fourteenth Amendment adopted the common-law definition of birthright citizenship. Chief Justice Melville W. Fuller’s dissenting opinion, however, argued that birthright citizenship had been repealed by the principles of the American Revolution and rejected by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. Nonetheless, the decision conferred birthright citizenship on a child of legal residents of the United States. Although the language of the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark is certainly broad enough to include the children born in the United States of illegal as well as legal immigrants, there is no case in which the Supreme Court has explicitly held that this is the unambiguous command of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Based on the intent of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment, some believe that Congress could exercise its Section 5 powers to prevent the children of illegal aliens from automatically becoming citizens of the United States. An effort in 1997 failed in the face of intense political opposition from immigrant rights groups. Apparently, the question remains open to the determination of the political and legal processes.
I would like to see a provision prohibiting (embargoing) all federal money to all cities, counties or states which refuse to enforce federal immigration laws.
See also: Alien Birthright Citizenship: A Fable That Lives Through Ignorance
http://federalistblog.us/2005/12/birthright_citizenship_fable.html
True! Bussing them back to Mexico is easy. But illegal Mexicans are 60-70% of illegal aliens. Illegal alien criminals need to be deported back to China, Central America, Latin America etc. Thus is a logical nightmare. Trains and planes have to be lined up and some will require armed guards and deportees to be shackled!
Many nations will refuse to take back the basura they sent us
Smells like pork? Your nose is messed up, because there is no immigration enforcement anywhere in that area and it is badly needed. Try reading instead of ‘smelling’ and you’ll get more out of the bill.
If you close off the boarder you don't need an office. Let the local law arrest the contractors and sub contractors breaking the law.
Why is an ICE office needed in Oklahoma? It is not a border state. It does not touch any foreign country (except perhaps for Bill Clinton’s Arkansas).
I don’t favor citizenship. I favor guest worker status to people who can to the US not seeking citizenship but a job. As long as the economy is robust, I favor guest worker status.
As far as the War on Terror goes, I am not the one on the thread calling for retreat. That was the person who proposed the “ammendment.”
You may be fallling into the Bush-ite “mass-deportation” rhetorical trap. All illegals would not need to be removed overnight; just start being serious about deportations when they’re caught, and start enforcing employer fines. Start small, so people aren’t shocked, but then keep going resolutely, and raise the fines. I think the word “attrition” has been used for this idea recently, and it’s probably the right approach.
The sum total of this might take 3 or 4 years. It’s not something that has to be done overnight, and doing it gradually is probably the best way.
No, not pork. Actually, establishing offices like this is the only way to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Municipalities all over the country are begging their members of Congress to set up ICE offices in their cities so that interior enforcement and employer sanctions can become a reality. In Colorado, both Colorado Springs and Greeley have already formally asked Homeland Security for local offices, and other towns have made informal requests because the state troopers are constantly stopping truck loads of illegals, and the ICE office in Denver often doesn’t have the resources to go get them and deport them. The creation of these local ICE offices is a good thing.
I’ll wait for you and your family. Afterall,this is the border of the U.S. not just Texas.
No?
I was hoping for more basic common sense. Of course you are right, but...
I am approaching this from another direction. If they lie, violate their oath of office, take bribes, visit the countries of our enemies while at war, all those should allow any citizen to file suit to have them removed.
As a clear example...
An amendment was proposed to the currently debated law which stated that all existing laws (legally passed by Congress) would be strictly enforced. The amendment failed to pass, and their vote recorded in the official Congressional Record!
This tells me that the legislators voting against that (unnecessary) amendment publicly stated their contempt for the laws, and violated their own oath of office.
Putting a process in place to effect their instant removal from office, for cause, is not an unreasonable expectation.
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