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To: dvan
Why doesn't the Bush Administration get it?

They do get it. The people who ask that question don't get it. The Republican party has become and continues to become increasingly socialistic. This is evident by Bush working with socialist Teddy Kennedy on this bill and expecting socialist Harry Reid not to let the bill die. Ideologically the Democrats and Republicans are becoming one party. Conservatives need to wake up and accept the fact the Republican party has abandoned Conservative values for Socialism. Conservatives can only rectify the one party system by forming their own party.
4 posted on 06/09/2007 4:54:14 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
Ideologically the Democrats and Republicans are becoming one party. Conservatives need to wake up and accept the fact the Republican party has abandoned Conservative values for Socialism. Conservatives can only rectify the one party system by forming their own party.

I've thought this for a long time, but watching this one issue has made me rethink your point. I now think you are mostly wrong, and that we need to take a different tack.

The socialism which both parties are now committed to is a tool which they are wielding for a purpose. That purpose is to replace the sovereign of this nation with a new and different sovereignty, without revolution. They have other tools, as well. Tools like "civil rights". Tools like the "living constitution". Tools like "the environment".

But it is the seizure and control of our elections, and thus the institutions of government which result therefrom, which is the root of the status quo power.

Until we exercise the latent power which we possess to reassert our sovereignty TO RULE OURSELVES IN OUR OWN NATION, the rest of it is meaningless - including the "conservative" vs. "liberal" game.

There are allies for the restoration of People Power on the Left (of course, they believe empowered people will demand more leftism). And there are enemies, many of them, on the Right.

As long as we have elections, the potential for change exists.

The form that change takes must be the destruction of both governing parties and the seating of a national unity government.

Just do it.

28 posted on 06/10/2007 4:49:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Man50D

Bush and the rest of the elitist movers and shakers/big business, decided the enemy was ingrained poverty and the threat of communism in the southern hemisphere. (That was the big picture and all that mattered, they didn’t bother to consider any downside.)The solution? Decent jobs. Well, NAFTA and CAFTA didn’t solve the problem — those pesky Orientals snatched up the jobs...Bush and the rest of the cabal forgot to factor in market forces, corruption, lack of education, and cultural differences. So Plan B. was to open borders (in wartime no less), move them north to become ‘Americanized’. They’d work and send money home.

Unfortunately, Mexico’s decided she’s better off siphoning billions through remittances than actually educating her own people. So Mexico ethnically cleansed itself of her lowest citizens and even encouraged any remaining to head for Canada...’You need cheap labor!’ Why did we ever think Mexico would behave ethically? They have no trouble with their drugs ruining American lives. They’ll never change. They’re jealous, angry, sick of being at the bottom of the heap and itching to get even. Remind you of anyone? Muslims, maybe?


33 posted on 06/10/2007 5:08:05 AM PDT by hershey
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