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To: Man50D
Ideologically the Democrats and Republicans are becoming one party. Conservatives need to wake up and accept the fact the Republican party has abandoned Conservative values for Socialism. Conservatives can only rectify the one party system by forming their own party.

I've thought this for a long time, but watching this one issue has made me rethink your point. I now think you are mostly wrong, and that we need to take a different tack.

The socialism which both parties are now committed to is a tool which they are wielding for a purpose. That purpose is to replace the sovereign of this nation with a new and different sovereignty, without revolution. They have other tools, as well. Tools like "civil rights". Tools like the "living constitution". Tools like "the environment".

But it is the seizure and control of our elections, and thus the institutions of government which result therefrom, which is the root of the status quo power.

Until we exercise the latent power which we possess to reassert our sovereignty TO RULE OURSELVES IN OUR OWN NATION, the rest of it is meaningless - including the "conservative" vs. "liberal" game.

There are allies for the restoration of People Power on the Left (of course, they believe empowered people will demand more leftism). And there are enemies, many of them, on the Right.

As long as we have elections, the potential for change exists.

The form that change takes must be the destruction of both governing parties and the seating of a national unity government.

Just do it.

28 posted on 06/10/2007 4:49:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Jim Noble

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29 posted on 06/10/2007 4:53:51 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Jim Noble
I've thought this for a long time, but watching this one issue has made me rethink your point. I now think you are mostly wrong, and that we need to take a different tack.

I agree they are using different issues as a front to advance socialism. Liberal is a misnomer. The correct term is socialists. Conservatives preventing Socialists from replacing our Democratic Republic with Socialism is not meaningless. It is the very basis for preserving our independence.

Conservatives can exercise the latent power by distinguishing themselves from the socialists in the Republican party. Many unaffiliated Conservatives did not know where to turn in the last national elections. Some either did not vote or by some twisted thinking voted for Democrats out of frustration. Unaffiliated voters would have not voted for the Democrats if there was a party solely for Conservatives. The Socialists in both parties can be destroyed only if Conservatives unite under one party umbrella.
35 posted on 06/10/2007 5:59:38 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Jim Noble
Just do it.

Well, yes. But there needs to be a little organization, don't you think?

40 posted on 06/10/2007 10:50:04 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: Jim Noble; All

A little parable...a hospital company I once worked for wanted to sell a hospital in its string of properties but couldn’t because its clause with D.C. stated that as long as the hospital was profitable, it had to maintain the hospital as a viable entity or sell it back to the city. If the hospital were to become unprofitable, the corporation could then close the hospital and then dispose of the property as the city would not want to deal with an unprofitable entity as well.

What the corporation did was to give the installed union at this hospital everything it had demanded in terms of health care and compensation. Then the hospital went from clearing several millions in profit each month to losing 1 then 2 then up to twelve million a month before the corporation announced the closure of the institution, all because they were able to use the greed of the union against itself!

Why mention this parable on this site? They are doing it to us on a massive scale in Washington so that the nation is bank-rupted and we are forced thru blind panic to accept a new order and reduced life style with a complete loss of rights and our loss of American identity!

Our materialism is being turned against us and we shall lose our country unless there is a massive grass roots effort to turn this situation around. We might have to do with less for a while in order to save our country!


55 posted on 06/16/2007 5:51:38 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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