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PC brigade ban pin-ups on RAF jets - in case they offend women and Muslims
U K Daily Mail ^

Posted on 06/09/2007 6:26:26 AM PDT by radar101

In killer heels and little else, they have a definite deadly charm.

But the risque images of women that have decorated warplanes since the First World War have been scrubbed out.

The Ministry of Defence has decreed they could offend the RAF's female personnel.

Officials admitted they had no record of any complaints from the 5,400 women in the RAF.

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But commanders are erring firmly on the side of caution and "nose art", as it is known, has been consigned to the history books.

Harrier jump jet bombers currently launching daily airstrikes against the Taliban in southern Afghanistan have been scrubbed clean to comply with the orders.

Critics said the MoD should be focusing on more important issues - such as the quality and quantity of equipment available to British forces sent off to war.

Nose art first appeared on warplanes during the First World War and enjoyed a golden age during the Second World War when thousands of American fighters and bombers were decorated with pictures of glamorous women.

Model Michelle Marsh signing a 'regulation' silhouetted image of herself on a Harrier plane during her Afghanistan trip

Military commanders tolerated the practice as a morale booster.

Famous examples include the Memphis Belle, a U.S. Army Air Force B-17 bomber that was the subject of a 1990 Hollywood movie.

Many RAF units picked up the practice from the Americans.

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During the Second World War it was common to see images of movie stars including Rita Hayworth and Jane Russell on British bombers heading for Germany.

Nose art enjoyed another surge in popularity during the 1991 and 2003 Gulf Wars, when risque images appeared on many British warplanes.

The decision to ban the images followed a visit by glamour models to southern Afghanistan before Christmas. During the trip they signed paintings of themselves on RAF aircraft.

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Commanders decided the images were sexist and insisted there was no place for them in the modern armed forces.

There was also concern that they could cause offence in a muslim country where until 2001 all women were forced to wear the head-to-toe burkha in public.

Glamour model Lucy Pinder, 23, who visited the RAF detachment at Kandahar last November and signed a painting of herself on a Harrier jet, said such images were only "harmless fun".

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"It's very flattering and it's nice that they get to do something that takes their minds off things for a while," she said from her home in Winchester, Hampshire.

Conservative MP Phillip Davies said: "Has the MoD really got nothing better to worry about at a time when there are serious concerns over equipment and resources available to our forces in Iraq and Afghanistan?"

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An RAF spokesman defended the decision to remove images which he said "cut across" the service's culture of equal opportunities.

"If you have women flying aircraft and working on them as engineers then these kinds of pictures are inappropriate," he said.

"That's why it's crossed the line and that's why they have been removed."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: effthemuzzies; noseart; raf; uktroops
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1 posted on 06/09/2007 6:26:29 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101
"There was also concern that they could cause offence in a muslim country where until 2001 all women were forced to wear the head-to-toe burkha in public."

What the hell? Are they longing for the "good old days?"

If the rags had airplanes, what would they adorn them with? Black tents with eyeholes?

Screw the 'slammics and all they hold dear.

2 posted on 06/09/2007 6:35:08 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: radar101
Maybe cartoons of Porky Pig???......

NAAAAAHHHH...it would offend muslims....(sigh)

PC is going to get us all killed....

3 posted on 06/09/2007 6:35:08 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: radar101
WARNING! The following may contain a color other than black or gray that will offend a blood thirsty murdering muslim!

Oh yeah! Paint this hottie on the side of your jets boys!


4 posted on 06/09/2007 6:36:49 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: MarineDad
MarineDad cleaned up what I wanted to say.
5 posted on 06/09/2007 6:40:29 AM PDT by mcshot ("Some are inert and some are ert" military training truism from Pvt Benjamin)
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To: radar101
Did the RAF really steal the name "Memphis Belle" if so they are lower than even I believed.

The Belle is a cherished icon of the American fighting man. She is on display in Memphis and should be a must see for everyone who goes within 100 miles of her.

As far a nose art goes - if you going into combat you can have the picture of any woman you want on your aircraft - clothes or not. The Brass got their panties in a wad during WW2 and it was stupid. Guys going on missions where 25 or 30% of them aren't coming home can have a pass in my book.

6 posted on 06/09/2007 6:46:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Hey Bush! "An Inconvenient Truth" you insulted me in a manner that you will not be forgiven for.)
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To: mcshot
"Officials admitted they had no record of any complaints from the 5,400 women in the RAF"

Well if they have had no complaints what the hell they worried about?

7 posted on 06/09/2007 6:48:13 AM PDT by Shots (If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
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To: Shots
Agitating the insane 7th-century murder cultists, probably.

Love that picture of Michelle Marsh autographing the airplane!

Too bad there aren't "flaming turban" silhouettes painted on the side, too.

8 posted on 06/09/2007 6:51:35 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: B.O. Plenty

PC is going to get us killed — BUMP!


9 posted on 06/09/2007 6:53:56 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: MarineDad
This IS a great photo...

The pleased expression on her face speaks volumes!

10 posted on 06/09/2007 6:55:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: radar101

The wussification of the West continues.


11 posted on 06/09/2007 6:57:17 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: radar101; Aeronaut

ping


12 posted on 06/09/2007 7:00:32 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: radar101

This could be amusingly nipped in the bud by tracking down any and every MoD employee, in uniform or not, and changing their duty assignment to Afghanistan for a year.

You can imagine how this would affect all of their bureaucrat kin. They would think long and hard about future regulations that impacted morale.


13 posted on 06/09/2007 7:21:06 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Bommer

Muslim strip tease...SHOW US YOUR FACE!


14 posted on 06/09/2007 7:26:04 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: radar101

This art work is called “nose art”. Check it out if you are interested in more. It was seen mostly on WWII bombers. Those guys needed encouragement. Their survival rate was horrible.


15 posted on 06/09/2007 7:50:04 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.. Common sense ain't common,. It's a gift from God.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
This would work...
16 posted on 06/09/2007 8:55:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: radar101
Man would of had a fit with one on the famous notorious bit of nose art ever... I can not post it because it is too pornographic ...but it was a full size nude oddly place on top of a F105 nose (see below) in a way the it would motive the boom operator to "hit" the 105 refueling port


17 posted on 06/09/2007 9:02:25 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: radar101; MarineDad
The nose-art on the aircraft was and is primarily for boosting the morale of the Fighting Men who fly and maintain them.

Morale-Booster! Got it?

The P-C crowd should be forced to clear a minefield or two before they tell anyone else what's inappropriate.

Besides, let the Women-Pilots adorn their aircraft with pictures of me, showing my huge schnazola .................... FRegards

Is that spelled right? ...

18 posted on 06/09/2007 9:17:20 AM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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I remember that in the 1990s the USAF reintroduced nose art on the planes as part of the heritage of the Army Air Forces. There were some restrictions in the amount of clothes the ladies had to wear (no nudes), and in the cases of the B-2s and F-117s, the art had to be in the wheel wells. If I’m wrong, please correct me, I’m doing this off the top of my head.

I wish I could ask my uncle what was his B-17’s nose art, but he’s in Arlington (snif).

His brother and my uncle will be interred there Monday (Merchant Marine). I wonder how many brother pairs are in Arlington?

19 posted on 06/09/2007 12:36:51 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: gonzo
I remember that in the 1990s the USAF reintroduced nose art on the planes as part of the heritage of the Army Air Forces. There were some restrictions in the amount of clothes the ladies had to wear (no nudes), and in the cases of the B-2s and F-117s, the art had to be in the wheel wells. If I’m wrong, please correct me, I’m doing this off the top of my head.

I wish I could ask my uncle what was his B-17’s nose art, but he’s in Arlington (snif).

His brother and my uncle will be interred there Monday (Merchant Marine). I wonder how many brother pairs are in Arlington?

20 posted on 06/09/2007 12:40:15 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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