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Immigration bill's demise suggests many are OK with status quo
San Francisco Chronicle | June 9, 2007 | Carolyn Lochhead

Posted on 06/09/2007 4:30:11 AM PDT by Baladas

The collapse of the giant immigration overhaul in the Senate might demonstrate that the dreaded status quo -- 12 million people living in the country illegally and more arriving each day -- is not really so dreadful after all.

The multitude of interests involved in the immigration debate -- business groups, ethnic lobbies, politicians in both parties and the American public -- in the end proved unwilling to yield enough to support the bipartisan compromise.

As California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat who helped negotiate the failed deal, said, the current immigrant situation in the United States is a de facto amnesty. Even the most ardent advocates of a border crackdown concede that it will be impossible to apprehend and deport 12 million people living here illegally.

But as much as everyone complains about the situation, the enormous black market in labor operating openly in the United States serves the interests of many involved, however imperfectly. It is an amnesty without amnesty.

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The Senate might yet resurrect the bill. Feinstein and other supporters vowed Friday to press forward. President Bush is scheduled to meet Tuesday with Republican senators at the Capitol.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., threatened to attach the immigration overhaul to bills naming a post office if it comes to that. "We are not giving up; we are not giving in," said Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, the top Democratic sponsor.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist; immigration; senate; treason; vampirebill
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So now they're trying to claim NOT granting amnesty is granting amnesty.

Graham actually said that?

1 posted on 06/09/2007 4:30:14 AM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas

I’m not ok with status quo. But I prefer it to amnesty.


2 posted on 06/09/2007 4:32:23 AM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: Baladas
The collapse of the giant immigration overhaul in the Senate might demonstrate that the dreaded status quo -- 12 million people living in the country illegally and more arriving each day -- is not really so dreadful after all.
Is that what it really means, Carolyn. Is that what it really means inside your your teeny, tiny, brain-damaged head?

In other words, a country is being invaded. The leadership comes up with a plan that totally ignores the invasion and promises to do something completely unrelated to stopping the invasion.

In response to that stupid plan, the people say, "your plan stinks".

Therefore, according to the brilliant reasoning of Carolyn, the people don't mind being invaded at all!

Wow. Someone give Carolyn a Big Huge Brain Award. She can put it up there on the mantle with all her other cool trophies.

(Are all reporters really this stupid?)

3 posted on 06/09/2007 4:35:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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NO! We are not OK with the status quo BUT we do not want AMNESTY!

BUILD THE DANM WALL AND ENFORCE THE LAWS WE HAVE!!

Why is so hard for them to understand this??!


4 posted on 06/09/2007 4:37:00 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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These liberal press people just refuse to recognize the obvious. Unbelievable.

Kind of like the 2006 election was about Iraq and corruption. Please. It was about the GOP shafting their base- and they STILL don’t get it.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 4:38:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: Baladas
Yep. They simply refuse to enforce the laws on the books so as to claim we can do nothing about it and getting amnesty written into law. Their argument is like saying that if we don't catch every murderer, rapist or child molester, we should stop enforcing those laws. No one makes such a ridiculous argument in those kinds of cases. But we're supposed to be convinced that because we haven't enforced our immigration laws, that we should us give up. Our elite would like to give up and they're annoyed we want to keep America alive.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 06/09/2007 4:39:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Immigration bill's demise suggests many are OK with status quo

No it doesn't Carolyn! Anything but!

I does however STRONGLY indicate that the VAST majority of the American people can recognize a BAD deal - one which would make things WORSE rather than better - when they see one!

7 posted on 06/09/2007 4:39:54 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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I’m not OK with the status quo but this is not the way to do it. Doesn’t the word “illegal” mean anything anymore? I’m certainly not satisfied with the status quo in the Republican party especially Lindsey Graham.


8 posted on 06/09/2007 4:40:11 AM PDT by HarleyD
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BALONEY!

American's hate the status quo! Americans want the Border closed and all Illegal Immigration stopped!

We also do not want a 108-page bill passed that nobody knows what's in!

It's not hard to understand!

What is this woman using for brains?

9 posted on 06/09/2007 4:40:39 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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"Immigration bill's demise suggests many are OK with status quo..."

Yeah, about 13-million of them, and they all speak Spanish.

That headline is about the most ridiculous "leap of faith" assumption I have heard yet from the MSM. We all know that most people get their newspaper "news" from headlines and photo/captions.

It's like claiming "Not all Americans play the Lotto, so those Americans obviously prefer being poor".

Puuuulllllleeeeezzzzzzzzzzze


10 posted on 06/09/2007 4:40:44 AM PDT by FrankR (Open Borders are like leaving your front door open all night in gangland.....)
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To: SolidWood

Bingo. Build a fence, enforce the borders. Then we can talk about the next step.


11 posted on 06/09/2007 4:41:53 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: goldstategop

Absolutely. All we want is that this administration and state and local authorities ENFORCE THE LAW. Of course, the real sticking point is that there is no $$ to be made in enforcing immigration law, unlike speed laws, etc.


12 posted on 06/09/2007 4:42:20 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: samtheman

(Are all reporters really this stupid?)

I would say about 99%.


13 posted on 06/09/2007 4:42:32 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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Thr president's mouthpiece, Tony Snow, said essentially the same thing. It is part of the plan to give us two bad choices and try to convince us that the worse one (the new law) is actually better. We won't be fooled again by an "amnesty now, enforcement later" law like 1986.
14 posted on 06/09/2007 4:43:21 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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"Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., threatened to attach the immigration overhaul to bills naming a post office if it comes to that."

The nerve of that belligerent little ass.

15 posted on 06/09/2007 4:44:01 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: sgtbono2002

And think of all the money they spend on university educations just to become as stupid as this Carolyn. It boggles the mind.


16 posted on 06/09/2007 4:45:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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Just because we don’t want to further ignore existing law and make things worse doesn’t mean we are okay with the status quo.
What fracking moron logic is that.


17 posted on 06/09/2007 4:45:21 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: ovrtaxt

” Kind of like the 2006 election was about Iraq and corruption. Please. It was about the GOP shafting their base- and they STILL don’t get it. “

Can anyone explain to me why the perennial poll response “The country is headed in the wrong direction” is interpreted by ALL politicians to mean “We’re not liberal enough”?

The answer to my question is also the answer to your comment about the GOP not ‘getting it’.......


18 posted on 06/09/2007 4:46:04 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Baladas

Lets see how much of the fence is built which they are mandated to do. F*** Washington DC. They are traitors if they won’t build more of the fence to at least show some good faith.

If the double layer fence is built and we start deporting those 600,000 who have defied deportation orders, then I’m willing to think about some kind of amnesty but never citizenship. But the simple fact is the rats in DC have so much contempt for Americans they won’t even take thee two steps.


19 posted on 06/09/2007 4:46:15 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: visualops
I'm not happy with the status quo. But the bill the President foolishly wants to resurrect would destroy the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 06/09/2007 4:47:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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