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AMNESTY BILL ---- DEAD ????
Boortz.com ^ | 06/08/2007 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 06/08/2007 5:42:44 AM PDT by NapkinUser

They had a little test vote in the Senate late yesterday ... to see of they could get the votes necessary for cloture and bring the amnesty bill to the floor for a vote. Not enough votes .... so the amnesty bill was withdrawn. Withdrawn for now.

The Democrats immediately went into defense mode. The media has been reporting for weeks that this bill was belonged to Ted Kennedy and John McCain. McCain was distancing himself from the bill earlier this week ... so that pretty much left Kennedy hanging out there alone. So here comes Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to tell all the world that this bill actually belonged to George Bush.

What an amazing tactic! When the bill is born you brag about the bipartisan nature of the bill and showcase your icon, Ted Kennedy, as a major mover and shaker behind this wonderful effort, and then the bill falls on its face. Suddenly it belongs to George Bush. The problem is that the government educated myrmidons of this country will buy Reid's story. He knows it.

This whole affair is particularly distressing to Democrats and the left because it presented them with clear evidence that the right is not dead. Perhaps they thought they dealt a death crushing to conservatives with last year's elections. Maybe they thought the death blow could be delivered with the election of President Rodham next year. Now we have conservative America standing up to this transparent Hispandering bill -- this amnesty bill -- and the support started to erode.

Do you know that they couldn't even manage to pass an amendment that would have eliminated illegal aliens with criminal records from the amnesty provisions?

Speaking of criminal aliens. I suppose it didn't help things this week when some illegal Mexican .. a Mexican who had twice before been deported .. got drunk, stole a car and killed a man in a grinding collision. How many people are killed by illegal alien drunk drivers every day? Some studies put the number at around 12 or so. Nice going.

Politicians who see these illegal aliens as a great source of future political support aren't going to give up. Don't go to sleep on this one. This bill is coming back.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2007amnesty; aliens; crimmigration; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrationlist
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1 posted on 06/08/2007 5:42:46 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: NapkinUser

It may “come back” in time to energize the GOP base for 2008 ..


2 posted on 06/08/2007 5:45:03 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

We must be vigilant, GW and Wall Street want this, but I do suspect that a large number of congressmen on both sides of the isle got chewed on enough that they will not want to revisit this one anytime soon.


3 posted on 06/08/2007 5:47:31 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: NapkinUser
This whole affair is particularly distressing to Democrats and the left because it presented them with clear evidence that the right is not dead.

I had the same thought and I'm already using it in arguments with liberals who say that conservatives are a tiny out of the mainstream minority.
4 posted on 06/08/2007 5:48:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: NapkinUser
How many people are killed by illegal alien drunk drivers every day? Some studies put the number at around 12 or so. Nice going.

Doing the drunk driving Americans won't do.....

5 posted on 06/08/2007 5:48:56 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
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To: NapkinUser
It's not dead, just playing possum.

In the meantime can we try enforcing the laws we already have?
6 posted on 06/08/2007 5:49:23 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: NapkinUser
It's Not Over
7 posted on 06/08/2007 5:51:52 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: P-40

YOU NAILED IT!

on BOTH comments (I give you a two-fer)


8 posted on 06/08/2007 5:52:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Hydroshock

The comiseration speeches after were the height of arrogance.

Martinez was a complete delusional elitist. (only missing a violin as rome burns)

Salazar was busy scolding the republicans and 11 democrats for not allowing the new democrat party illegal alien votors.

DURBIN PROMISED TO WRITE INTO LAW ALL PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN BECOME ANCHOR BABIES. (aka the dream act)

no we are not done.

Now we have a hydra, only chopping off the figurative democrat party head can we defeat this monster. (we also have to burn the heads we have chopped, for those who know mythology) Republicans who voted for cloture must now pay a price. NOT ONE PENNY FOR MEL MARTINEZ. MARTINEZ MUST RESIGN AS RNC CHAIR.


9 posted on 06/08/2007 5:52:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NapkinUser

Build the fence, enforce the laws.


10 posted on 06/08/2007 5:53:31 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: ken5050

I can understand why Bush supported this. He has nothing to lose being so unpopular and still does not understand how he effected the 06 mid-terms. But why did Republicans in the senate originally sign on to this deal? Last year a similar effort killed them with everyone. And Democrats vowed to fight SS reform to the end, worried that Republicans would get credit. Why would Republicans in the Senate care what Bush thinks about this. I suppose if Democrats get the blame for this failure then it’s OK for them, but it’s very risky.


11 posted on 06/08/2007 5:54:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: NapkinUser
Unfortunately, methinks this bill is goping to be like herpes and have occasional flare ups which will need to be stamped out.

Until the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party can be sanitized.

12 posted on 06/08/2007 5:55:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: ken5050
It may “come back” in time to energize the GOP base for 2008 ..

If the GOP wants to energize the base they'll need to get started and pass an enforcement only bill and build the fence well ahead of the next election.
13 posted on 06/08/2007 5:55:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: NapkinUser

It’s not the bill that needs a good killin’.


14 posted on 06/08/2007 5:55:30 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: NapkinUser

Maybe it’s got nothing nothing to do with Democrats or Repbulicans, Left or Right, Liberals or Conservaitves. Maybe its about Americans telling the elites to shove it.


15 posted on 06/08/2007 5:56:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NapkinUser

Fox news is saying the issue will reappear in a few weeks.

They heard the uproar, now they have to figure how to use that information to make the bill look more appealing in order to make those that are against it look evil.

Shouldn’t be too hard, throw in those amendments they know will never be enforced, the ones that can make those Senators worried about their job look better.

People like Hunter, one of the honest guys will never get his wall.

Does this sound cynical? Just watch them. They are craftier than Paris Hilton’s lawyers.


16 posted on 06/08/2007 5:59:33 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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Maybe it is dead. From HotAir:

Update: John Hawkins: “A source in the Senate says this bill is as dead as Stalin and it won’t be becoming back no matter what McConnell is saying on the floor.”

Update: The sweet smell of death is in the air

Democratic leaders were quietly pessimistic. House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said Bush could count on 175 to 180 House Democrats to support a similar, comprehensive immigration bill, leaving the White House to deliver at least 40 Republicans in a body that has been far more polarized.

“If Bush could not get the votes in the Senate, what was he going to do in the House?” Emanuel asked.

--Not to say conservatives still shouldn't be fighting, but I think it's pretty close to dead.

17 posted on 06/08/2007 6:02:36 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for President in 2008! SEE: http://www.teamtancredo.com/)
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To: NapkinUser

so that pretty much left Kennedy hanging out there alone.
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I would buy a ticket to see that hanging, and be glad to provide the rope.

This killer has been loose for far too long and Mary Jo’s parents should be ashamed they took the money and let this guy off the hook.


18 posted on 06/08/2007 6:11:33 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I watched the Dim’s post-mortem mutual admiration/funeral oration speeches also. What a mawkish performance, particularly from Hairy and Durbin, the `Swimmer, Babs and the assorted Republicrats.
I’d never heard Durbin before. Now there’s a slick, lizard-lidded Lithuanian. And using the same tired arguments: “Why, it wasn’t amnesty”. “It isn’t enough that we give a `bye’ to anchors, but I want to include kids brought here illegally.” Ad nauseum, all emotions and feelings, nothing more than feelings/rhetoric (although it was good rhetoric).
Senator Sessions was like the sun coming up. Thank you, great state of Alabama!


19 posted on 06/08/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: indylindy

The only reason this even comes up is that Bush and McCain talk some Republicans into pushing it. It has no chance. It’s like reforming SS right now. I would never support raising SS taxes, especially the ones that Bush was willing to raise, the upper cap. Democrats would never support private accounts or cutting benefits, but they would support raising taxes on benefits, and raising the cap because both these would only be on a certain set of people they target.

So politically the two sides are so different on both issues a common approach is just a dream, and a nightmare.


20 posted on 06/08/2007 6:22:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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