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Senate votes to allow Illegal Alien Felons to stay

Posted on 06/06/2007 3:28:16 PM PDT by Bad Hands

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To: rovenstinez

With the USA population over 350 million, only 120 million vote. 30% each on either side of the aisle at any given time (nationally 72 million). Another +/-30% vote 3rd party leaving 10% up for grabs. (I know, I know, everybody has better numbers, work with me here.)

With estimates reaching as high as 30 million illegals, ( logic would dictate they would vote to stay,) it would seem a third party is already here.

The only winners here are politicians and illegals and they’re both making sure we never get the chance to vote against any of it until they’ve established voting rights with a nearly 30% voice.


41 posted on 06/06/2007 5:05:47 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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To: Bad Hands
Goodness knows, we need all of the illegal alien felons we can get in the USA.


42 posted on 06/06/2007 5:12:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: ameribbean expat
list of ayes/nays?

You can check that out by going to this URL and scrolling down for the list of the senators and how they voted: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00187

Here are some sources for looking up votes in Congress.

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote -- look for S-1348 (the amnesty bill) and its amendments.
www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_110_1.htm

Senate Amnesty Votes 2007: the Federation for American Immigration Reform will be updating this table of Senate Amnesty Votes daily.
www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=leg_senate_amnesty_votes_2007

U.S. House of Representatives Roll Call Votes - 110th Congress - 1st Session (2007)
clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/index.asp

Congress votes database -- This site from the Washington Post lets you browse every vote in the U.S. Congress since 1991.
projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/

43 posted on 06/06/2007 5:33:44 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: B4Ranch; All

Hillary just got done spouting that ALL relatives of z card holders (NOT citizens!!)) should be able to come in..no cap!

Inhofe is trying to keep his English first amendment in there, as was passed last time in the Senate! The slugs.

If he doesn’t get it in there, Clintons EO of ballots etc will be law and we’ll just have to print everything in any language demanded.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 5:56:16 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

The value of having an American citizenship is going to be worth less than a bucket of hot dog doo doo real soon.


45 posted on 06/06/2007 6:01:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: B4Ranch

It’s so depressing. I’ve got things I NEED to do. lol. Can’t stop screaming at the TV!


46 posted on 06/06/2007 6:03:11 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: dennisw

Of course some did, with turds like Floridas’ Mel Martinez
what do you expect?


47 posted on 06/06/2007 6:43:15 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: B4Ranch

I like Robert Byrd’s vote. We know his downside but he’s pretty much an America First type of guy


48 posted on 06/06/2007 6:48:16 PM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Joe Boucher

Mel Martinez, I voted for him even though I was pretty sure he was a weasel. The Democrat running against him was a woman who ran University of Florida- Betty Castor. No way will I vote for a female Educrat who coddled SAmi al Arian


49 posted on 06/06/2007 6:56:32 PM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: B4Ranch
Kerry (D-MA), Nay * We almost elected this idiot.

Your Right! We instead elected Bush, he will be our savior for immigration.

50 posted on 06/06/2007 6:56:49 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: dennisw

dennisw you have just referenced the only reason I too felt obligated to vote for Mel.
Like they say though, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.


51 posted on 06/06/2007 7:06:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Bad Hands

Where are the presidential ads:

McCain sides with Felons!!

Those would work.


52 posted on 06/06/2007 7:08:40 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: B4Ranch

Amazing. In Florida, Nelson, the Democrat gets it right, and Martinez, the Republican gets it wrong.


53 posted on 06/06/2007 7:23:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Bad Hands

No good will come of this. But I guess the dimwits will just say that the felons will add to multiculturalism. oh joy.


54 posted on 06/06/2007 7:28:38 PM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: Bad Hands
Senate votes to allow Illegal Alien Felons to stay

We dont have enough of our own felons running loose..../sarc
55 posted on 06/06/2007 10:18:03 PM PDT by WasDougsLamb (What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you comprehend?!)
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To: Moonman62
Amazing. In Florida, Nelson, the Democrat gets it right, and Martinez, the Republican gets it wrong.

Thanks for noting that. I live in FL and shall keep that in mind. I promise you Sen. Bill Nelson's DC office was deluged with phone calls faxes etc. I'm calling tomorrow to apply more pressure

Effin' Mel Martinez! What a skunk and he heads the DNC is an idiotic suck up to Hispanics

56 posted on 06/07/2007 2:39:59 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Joe Boucher

I am rightfully prejudiced against female “educators”. They have feminized and liberalized too much of our education establishment. I had Betty Castor’s number. If elected she would have made you sick with her PC bullcrap. So instead we got Mel Martinez, shameless panderer, propagandist and lobbyist for open borders and illegal alien Hispanics


57 posted on 06/07/2007 2:44:50 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: dennisw

Tweedle dee or tweedle dum?
Like so many of our elections, are these two indreds the best we can come up with?


58 posted on 06/07/2007 3:36:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Bad Hands

So, could anyone tell me if illegal aliens like these are going to be allowed to stay or be granted citizenship? http://www.freerepublic.com/~ebh/

Grand jury widens scope of charges against Islamic Mosque of Cleveland founder, associates

Updated:2/1/2006 7:24:02 PM

CLEVELAND — He founded the Islamic Center of Cleveland. Now, he, his family and his staff face charges for money laundering and other crimes. Ahbrar Haque is the man in the center of the investigation. Now, a grand jury has widened the scope of the charges against he and his associates.

In February 2005, Federal agents raided the accounting offices of Haque, the Islamic Center’s founder. In April, he, his wife and two associates were charged in Federal Court for money laundering. Now, 10 months later, 11 more of his associates have been charged.

Last February, federal agents removed box after box from Haque’s accounting business, Ahbrar CPA, on Lorain Avenue in Cleveland. The seizure of those documents, investigators say, are what lead to the new charges. Haque and the 13 others are charged with creating false documentation for immigration purposes, money laundering, falsifying payroll records, filing false tax returns, mail and wire fraud and more. Four of those charged Wednesday, including Haque, were also charged last April. He along with his wife, brother and a long list of employees from the Cleveland area are now part of that growing list facing charges.

A piece of this investigation also centers on the Ihsan School of Excellence in Cleveland. Haque founded and managed that school. Investigators say Haque’s staff created false employment tax reports for those working at the school.

In addition to the document seizure at the CPA’s offices last February, investigators also raided his Berea home last year. Federal investigators did not go before cameras Wednesday. Where all this money was going or what the big picture motive was for these activities is not being elaborated on. Only two of the newly charged individuals have been taken into custody. The others will be served subpoenas as part of this 66-page indictment that contains 76 counts.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=47106

Update Investigations of Arab Americans draw complaints

BY MIKE TOBIN

c.2007 Newhouse News Service

\ CLEVELAND — Federal agencies increasingly are fighting the war on terror with tax laws and food stamp regulations.

Investigators from the FBI, IRS and other agencies have turned to tactics similar to those that broke the Mafia to investigate people suspected of funneling money to terrorists overseas.

Decades ago, FBI agents snagged mobsters in low-level crimes and then persuaded them to testify against their bosses in return for lighter prison sentences. These days, federal investigators recruit Arab informants involved in crimes such as food stamp fraud, income tax evasion and drug trafficking, to penetrate organizations that investigators believe might be sending money to terrorists...

...A recent trial in U.S. District Court shed light on an investigation that ensnared several Arab-owned businesses. In the case of Abrar Haque, the FBI sent an undercover informant into Haque’s Cleveland accounting firm after getting tips that Haque was sending money abroad to terrorists...

...They did learn, though, that he sold phony financial documents that his clients — almost exclusively small-business owners from the Middle East — used to obtain fraudulent bank loans or welfare benefits or free health care coverage intended for the poor.

Altogether, at least 15 people have been charged in the Haque investigation, and prosecutors expect more indictments...

...FBI Special Agent James McTighe said law enforcement agencies are more focused on the ways terrorists get money after the Sept. 11 attacks, but he denies specific groups are being singled out for investigation.

``If it leads to evidence of terror financing, we pursue it,” McTighe said.

The Haque investigation began when someone told federal investigators that Haque might be sending money to terrorists or organizations that supported them.

Haque was a popular figure in the local Muslim community, and penetrating his circle of friends and business associates proved difficult.

Investigators got nowhere until they found someone in trouble who needed to make a deal.

Mohammed Hasan of North Olmsted, Ohio, was involved in a methamphetamine ring. Hasan pleaded guilty to drug trafficking and money laundering in 2002 and was sentenced to more than seven years in prison. All Hasan had to offer in hopes of getting a shorter sentence was some information his friend Mohammed Abdelqader had.

Abdelqader, in an effort to help his friend, agreed to help the FBI conduct a sting. He was to ask Haque to fudge the numbers for his business and to help him send money overseas to support terror groups.

During Haque’s trial in November, prosecutors played secretly recorded tapes of meetings between Haque and Abdelqader. Abdelqader gave Haque shopping bags full of cash, and in return Haque gave him $300,000 worth of checks that Abdelqader could deposit into a bank.

Depositing such a large amount of cash would have raised suspicions of federal investigators.

Armed with this knowledge, FBI agents got court approval to break into Haque’s offices at night and go through his business records. They discovered a “one-stop shop for fraud,” Assistant U.S. Attorney James Moroney said.

Haque sold his customers fake documents showing they made far more or far less money than was true, depending on their needs. For example, a man who owned a gas station bought documents that showed he made just $975 a month — low enough for his children to qualify for Medicaid. Then he bought documents showing a much higher income when he needed a bank loan to buy a $250,000 house.

Investigators had reams of incriminating evidence against more than a dozen business owners — almost all of whom were Muslims of Arab descent....

...Haque was convicted on more than 60 counts, including conspiracy, fraud and money laundering. His brother, Akram Haque, and Abdur Rashid, the imam at the Islamic Mosque, were convicted on similar charges after a three-week trial. Terrorism charges were not part of the case against them or the 12 other people who pleaded guilty to charges related to the Haque investigation.

Jan. 2, 2007

(Mike Tobin is a reporter for The Plain Dealer of Cleveland. He can be contacted at mtobin@plaind.com.) ———————————————————————————————————


59 posted on 06/07/2007 3:47:34 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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