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Think Political Parties Are Destroying America? Thank the 17th Amendment! by Todd Huston
The New Media Journal ^ | 5 june 2007 | Todd Huston

Posted on 06/05/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

Think Political Parties Are Destroying America? Thank the 17th Amendment!

by Todd Huston, Senior Writer

June 5, 2007

If you think our nation is being ruined by the two party system you should consider the huge mistake we made in 1913 by changing our Constitution to allow American citizens to vote our Senators into office. In the beginning and until 1913 we did not elect our Senators to that chamber as the Founders originally meant for them to be individually appointed to office by the legislatures of the various states.

That mistake is the17th Amendment. Previous to 1913 Senators were appointed by the state governments to represent them in Congress but after passage of the 17th amendment Senators were from that point forward elected by the people at the ballot box in a general election.

At first hearing, it seems like a good idea full of populist “power to the people” and a way to “fix” what had seemed like an error in the original Constitution. The cure, however, has proven worse than the disease and made the old saying, "all politics is local" into a lie at long last.

As originally conceived by our founders, the members of the House of Representatives were to represent the needs of the people of their regions or states, which is why they are elected by the citizens of a state. Senators, on the other hand, were to represent the state legislatures in Congress to assure that Federal power did not usurp state sovereignty and were, therefore, appointed by those same state legislatures accordingly.

But now that the Senators are elected to their position we have essentially eliminated any say that state governments might have in matters Federal simply because those same Senators are no longer beholden to their state legislatures.

It is true that there was a problem with the original way we placed senators in Congress, granted. Previous to the 17th amendment state legislatures could often be found in such a closely split balance between parties that a choice of a senator was a political impossibility, the Parties not being able to agree on a candidate. The consequence of this deadlock was that sometimes states would find themselves without a senator sitting in Washington and, therefore, without representation there. Even in the very first Congress New York found itself without a senator for a period of time because they could not agree on a candidate due to a deadlocked legislature. The problem really became troublesome after the Civil War and just until the Amendment was proposed. Delaware once went four years at a stretch without a Senator. This was the problem the 17th Amendment was meant to remedy.

Like I said, at first this seemed like an ideal solution. Let the people vote and take the burden off the state legislatures and, in this way, assure that there will always be the requisite number of Senators sitting in Congress.

Unfortunately, we have seen the result of this fix to the Constitution, an act akin to putting a Band-Aid on a case of skin cancer allowing the malignancy to grow instead of getting rid of it.

By opening Senators to election by the people we took the influence of the state right out of the Federal government. Since the Senators themselves were no longer directly responsible to the state legislature, but supposedly to the people who elected them, they no longer had to pay strict attention to what the state government needed or wanted. The Senators were autonomous from the state legislature and have since gravitated to adherence to strict party line making them beholden to the national parties and not the state OR the people who elected them. They now campaign on the "national issues" of the day as this last election demonstrated clearly and as many of the elections since the 1980's have similarly demonstrated.

Such campaigning on party issues was pioneered by the Democrats in the 1930's as they tried to advance the New Deal policies of the FDR administration. It was made into an art form by the Johnson and Clinton administrations with the Republicans following suit starting with the Reagan era and solidified in Newt Gingrich's '94 elections. National parties have since made strict national issues or planks which have become a litmus test for party candidates and for party money to be bestowed upon them for their campaigns by the national organizations.

This, in turn, has totally eliminated state control or representation in the halls of Congress and that has unleashed a torrent of Federal rules and regulations that have hamstrung the states and reduced them to vassals of the Federal government.

Senators who are beholden to the national parties make it less likely that they will differ too greatly from the party line thereby not giving them much latitude to act independently or to be influenced by regional concerns. This is increasing year after year.

The issues Senators run on have been thoroughly nationalized and so has the expectations of the electorate of just who is and who is not a “proper” member of any particular party. For instance, abortion and gun control have become national standards for party affiliation whereas they used to originate from regional standards. Al Gore used to be against abortion and gun control before he became a Democrat on the "national stage" and from the point he announced a run for the presidency. In the early 1990's he made a 180-degree flip flop on those issues for no other reason than to be compatible with the national policies of the Democratic Party. He did this while still a Senator, it should be remembered. He certainly did not change his opinions out of introspection but rather to "fit in" with the directives of the national party and to assure himself the attention and support of that national party.

Joe Lieberman is a perfect example of this problem. He was forced to run as an “independent Democrat” against an upstart candidate who didn’t even come close to representing the needs and wishes of the people of Connecticut but one who fit in perfectly with the Democratic Party leadership. The Party alone tried to chose Connecticut’s candidate quite regardless of what they wanted.

Another aspect of this problem is the amount of campaign donations that come from outside any particular state to fund a Senate run. Lieberman’s unrepresentative opponent was heavily funded by forces well outside the state instead of by the citizens who would actually elect him to office. This has the effect of driving the costs of running for office ever higher in key races.

This nationalization of issues also has the unintended consequence of making an independently minded national candidate for president difficult to elect or to even be heard because the parties themselves have become stronger than the states making them far more the arbiter of who is “allowed” to run for office than the people. This has made the truly conservative Republican a pariah in the national party as was evident by the near total exclusion of the excellent and intelligent Alan Keyes in the 2000 presidential election as well as similarly squelching the chances of a far left candidate like Ralph Nader.

Perhaps it is time to revisit the 17th amendment and place power back in the hands of the states as they determine who will represent them and, in turn, us in the halls of the Senate of the United States.

Text of the 17th Amendment The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.


Warner Todd Huston is a senior writer for The New Media Journal. He also serves as an NMJ Radio Headline News Roundtable Editor, a free lance writer, graphic designer and works in Desktop Publishing. Like every man when young, Mr. Huston was sure that Conservatives were inhumane, ignorant of history and greedy...then he grew up.


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To: HaveHadEnough
The 18th was the worst

I disagree.

The 18th amendment followed the constitutional provisions. The Constitution is solely about the establishment of a government. The Constitution is not about the people. That is why the Constitution did not grant Congress legislative powers to prohibit the people.

The 18th amendment, once ratified, gave Congress the added legislative power to write law prohibiting intoxicating liquors. The law resulting from that added power was called the Volstead Act.

The 18th amendment utilized the constitutional amendment process required to add legislative powers. This is far better that the present day concept of merely re-interpreting the Constitution to achieve a political agenda and bypassing the amendment process altogether. The reason the people allow Congress to bypass the constitutional amendment process has its roots in the 16th and 17th amendments.

In my opinion the harm to the nation from the 16th and 17th amendments has been, and will continue to be, far worse than prohibition with virtually no way to repeal.

81 posted on 06/05/2007 4:16:44 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: K-oneTexas
The primary effect of this proposal would be to further increase the present overrepresentation of a rural voters in national politics.
82 posted on 06/05/2007 4:36:24 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: oblomov; y'all

The Squalid 14th Amendment [Free Republic]
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38ae1fc86628.htm

That ~squalid~ view of the 14th was throughly refuted on FR years ago.


83 posted on 06/05/2007 4:56:43 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: K-oneTexas
"Another aspect of this problem is the amount of campaign donations that come from outside any particular state to fund a Senate run. Lieberman’s unrepresentative opponent was heavily funded by forces well outside the state instead of by the citizens who would actually elect him to office. This has the effect of driving the costs of running for office ever higher in key races."

Some people sure love to write about things they don't know about.

Lieberman raised 80% of his campaign contributions form out-of-state donors, the 23M Lieberman raised from these donors was more than six times the 3.5M Lamont raised from all donors.

84 posted on 06/05/2007 4:58:54 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Lurker

But, if federalism refers to the states having more say and sharing power with the federal government, then what is the opposite? I thought the big argument was between states’ rights vs. federalism? (Again, I’m not arguing; I just want to learn. It sounds like the opposite of what I thought.)


85 posted on 06/05/2007 8:43:47 PM PDT by rimtop56
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To: rimtop56; Lurker

Okay, I checked the dictionary, and you are right. The opposite of federalism is centralism. Thanks.


86 posted on 06/05/2007 8:48:52 PM PDT by rimtop56
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To: oblomov
Congress is NOT 1/3 of the government. Each of the branches of the federal government has distinct powers.

Although I corrected myself earlier and it's actually 1/6th of the government, strictly speaking, we've got 3 co-equal branches of government, each with distinct powers. However, one of the three is now completely elected via a democratic process, and there's a push to do the same with the executive branch as well.

Mark

87 posted on 06/05/2007 8:54:03 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: oblomov
From your link:

"It's true that Congress generally does not invoke Section Five (of the 14th amendment - rp) when it regulates private individuals. This is the case for two reasons: 1) Congress already has the power to do almost anything it wants under current Commerce Clause jurisprudence; and 2) current Section Five jurisprudence limits Congress to regulating "state action."

Plus, Section Five has more to do with giving Congress the authority to impose penalties (by allowing lawsuits) than giving the authority for the legislation itself. Section Five of the 14th may give the legislation "teeth", but Congress writes the law under the Commerce Clause. Hardly what I would call a "hyperexpansive interpretation".

88 posted on 06/06/2007 5:57:27 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: sand88
(before PC)[Note: these are not my thoughts, just relaying what I read :) ]

It is interesting that you felt you had to put in this disclaimer.The "chilling" effect that PC has on debate.You have no opinion on it?

89 posted on 06/06/2007 8:33:02 AM PDT by hschliemann
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To: darkangel82
You sure you’re a conservative?

Is there something I wrote that leads you to conclude otherwise?

90 posted on 06/06/2007 8:38:18 AM PDT by hschliemann
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To: hschliemann
You have no opinion on it?

In my experience, it seems many men want government to grow too in all aspects. so I don't feel government Socialism is because of women. I think it's because some people just want to "rule" others, be it them man or woman. I think his "theory" if you want to call it that, is impossible to prove.

91 posted on 06/06/2007 9:05:31 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: sand88
You have no opinion on it?

...it seems many men want government to grow too in all aspects.

I didn't argue otherwise.

I don't feel government Socialism is because of women...

I didn't argue that either.

I merely asked if you had no opinion on the question of whether the 19th amendment was good or bad.If you think women should or shouldn't vote,just come out and say so.I get enough obfuscation on TV.No need for that here.

92 posted on 06/06/2007 3:25:07 PM PDT by hschliemann
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To: hschliemann
I merely asked if you had no opinion on the question of whether the 19th amendment was good or bad.

I didn't see that question,sorry. My answer is that the 19th amendment is good.

93 posted on 06/06/2007 4:59:18 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: K-oneTexas

BTTT!


94 posted on 08/07/2007 2:00:45 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


95 posted on 10/27/2007 5:08:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: darkangel82
If we still had states appointing senators, we’d never see a GOP majority again.

If it weren't for Reynolds v. Sims, which forced ALL houses of all state legislatures to bow to the false god of proportional representation, we'd have a better chance of a GOP majority, as state Senates would be able to use other methods of representation, such as county-by-county.

96 posted on 10/27/2007 5:18:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: hschliemann

I’m just curious, what compels you to oppose the 19th. Is it that you consider women not mature enough to vote, or too emotional to vote, or not smart enough, or what? And yes, I do realize that had only women voted for President in 2000, Al Gore would have won solidly.


97 posted on 10/27/2007 5:28:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: x
For inevitably, a Senate still chosen by state legislatures would increasingly come to look illegitimate to voters dumbed down by decades of pro-democracy propaganda and public education.

Fixed it.

98 posted on 10/27/2007 5:38:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Shhhhhhh. (My wife's right behind me)

If you truly believe in repealing the 19th Amendment, a few nights on the couch won't hurt you.

99 posted on 10/27/2007 5:41:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
The primary effect of this proposal would be to further increase the present overrepresentation of a rural voters in national politics.

I think you might have been able to make that case prior to Reynolds v. Sims, which forced all chambers of the state legislatures to represent people proportionally (one man = one vote). The resulting representation in statehouses tends to be concentrated in urban and suburban areas, if I'm not mistaken.

100 posted on 10/27/2007 5:46:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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