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Bigotry always is sinful, even if the target are 'illegal'
Daily Southtown ^ | June 1, 2007 | Andrew Greeley

Posted on 06/05/2007 2:49:00 AM PDT by B. Chezwick

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To: B. Chezwick

Letter sent to the managing editor:


I oppose illegal immigration.

For this, Andrew Greely calls me a bigot, and compares me to the Klan.

My son is a foreigner, but the difference is he was adopted and naturalized in accordance with the legal procedures of his home country and of the United States of America.

I love my son desparately, regardless of his nation of birth, and regardless of the fact that he is an immigrant.

But in the sleazy, yellow-journalist style, Greely accuses me of hating all immigrants because I support the principle that our nation should have the power to protect its borders and soverignty, by enforcing the laws of immigration and naturalization as provided for in the Constitution, and prevent the entry into its borders of violent criminals, carriers of readily contaigious diseases, and subersives who hate everything America stands for and seek to overthrow it.

It’s a grave, deeply offensive insult, and Greely owes me, and the rest of Americans who believe that our duly considered, deliberatly enacted immigration laws are worthy of enforcement, a sincere apology.

Michael Pelletier



141 posted on 06/05/2007 7:42:06 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: listenhillary
What terrible threat to their well-being do these poor peons represent

Well, they're poor. We all know that poverty causes crime, don't we? And they're here illegally. That means we know they have no respect for our laws.

And they say, they want to take over at least part of the country, and send us back where they came from.

Of course, the crime statistics speak for themselves. Leaving aside the illegality of being here in the first place, we know that these are decent, wonderful (far more than us bigots), hard-working people who support family values. We do know that, don't we? I mean people tell us that all the time. So, of course, the crime statistics show that illegals have the least violent crime of any other demographic group. Don't they?

And this is a wonderful opportunity for narrrow-minded, undeducated Americans to learn a foreign language, so they can order in a restaurant, or tell their employees what they want done. Right? Yep. I see now that Greeley is right. I will immediately call my senators and representative and tell them to ignore the other 327 phone calls, faxes, letters, and e-mails that I have sent them. Just like the White House already has.

142 posted on 06/05/2007 7:43:16 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: B. Chezwick
New headline:


Andrew Greeley Calls African-Americans Criminals

143 posted on 06/05/2007 7:43:39 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: goldstategop
Liberals can't get out of their heads the notion conservatives are the scum of the earth. We're just know-nothings out on an ugly nativist rampage.

Saw Fred Barnes make that same "nativist" charge on The Beltway Boys this weekend. To him and his transnationalist brethren at the Weekly Standard and WSJ opposition to illegal immigration necessarily makes one a nativist/bigot/racist.

144 posted on 06/05/2007 7:47:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


145 posted on 06/05/2007 9:20:00 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: B. Chezwick

It’s hard to imagine that this man was schooled in logic. I understand that the Jesuits are taught how to present an argument in a logical, deliberate manner. Perhaps I’m just too stupid or conservative to see the logic here.

My wife, who was born and raised in Africa, came to the United States legally, yet according to this man, I’m a bigot for insisting that immigrants follow the guidelines established by law when seeking citizenship.

?????????


146 posted on 06/05/2007 9:22:05 AM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'd rather have them as neighbors and fellow citizens than someone who calls himself a conservative...

On this we can agree. You can keep the illegals in New York and send the conservatives to whom you refer to us in Texas.
147 posted on 06/05/2007 9:29:54 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: USMCVet

They might be going to Mass, but they’re sure not reading their Bibles. If they did, they’d repent of their theft, covetousness and not submitting to the authorities over them, and they’d go back to their home countries and apply to come here legally.


148 posted on 06/05/2007 9:41:00 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: B. Chezwick

Here’s the letter I sent to Mr. Greeley:

>>>>>>>

Mr. Greeley:

Apparently I’m a bigot. My wife, who was born in Khartoum and raised in Africa until she and I were married nine years ago, is apparently also a bigot. Both of us think that immigrants arriving in the United States should follow established immigration law when applying for citizenship or a desire to live in the United States. However, I don’t want to be thought of as a bigot, so I would hope you could clarify why asking people to follow the immigration laws is bigotry. Was our act of bigotry going to the Immigration and Naturalization Service offices as soon as we were married? Was it bigotry for Isabella to come into the country with a passport? Was Isabella’s request for a green card an act of bigotry? After all, she wanted a better life for herself, just like immigrants from all over the world. Are the laws regulating immigration the source of bigotry, or our acquiescence to those laws the act of bigotry?

If we had known that following immigration laws would make us bigots, Isabella would have just flown over and settled down. Would that clear us of our sin?

In a related question, what other laws can I disregard because they have the taint of bigotry? How will I decide? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks for your help.

>>>>>

Gee, that’s fairly dripping with sarcasm.


149 posted on 06/05/2007 9:42:10 AM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: B. Chezwick

Andrew Greeley apparently feels that insisting on upholding the law as written is racist. And while he’s at it, he might consider that excusing Latin illegals is a form of discrimination against those from countless other countries who actually observe the law and go through the system to get their citizenships. It evidently didn’t occur to him to think this through, so intent is he on toeing the Politically Correct line of nonsense. Or perhaps he’s simply an imbecile.


150 posted on 06/05/2007 9:54:27 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: B. Chezwick
I have never critized a legal immigrant in my life. Don't ever intend to.

Yet I am bigot, a racist, an anti-immigrant nativist and sinful and immoral to boot.

OK.

151 posted on 06/05/2007 10:21:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: goldstategop

Liberals suffer from such a wide variety of genetic defects their brain functions cannot be described as “fully human”.


152 posted on 06/05/2007 10:34:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: the invisib1e hand
We don't have very many Mexicans around here, immigrants or otherwise, except downtown at the Mexican embassy.

On the other hand we have a full load of immigrants in this part of town who come from all over the world.

BTW, these are all "legal immigrants" for whom I reserving the term "immigrant".

There are, on the other hand, many tens of thousands of people from a Central American country who are present here "on parole" ~ which makes them lawful residents, but technically speaking they aren't immigrants at all, nor are they illegal aliens.

Every June their parole gets extended for another year.

The immigration bill before the Senate does nothing to adjust their status, or send them back home, or even redirect them to a culturally and linguistically compatible third country, e.g. Mexico, Nicragua, Honduras, ....

Funniest thing though is that there are also illegal aliens from the same country. They got here long after those who claim to have been war refugees. These guys have an organized criminal gang called MS13, and they commit all the murders in this part of town.

The Kennedy immigration proposal will regularlize the MS13 members and give them premanant residency ~ presumably so they can kill more people.

If you think the Kennedy bill makes any sense, you are on the wrong planet!

153 posted on 06/05/2007 10:41:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B. Chezwick

this guy got an earful from me. what a weak and disgraceful argument.


154 posted on 06/05/2007 10:42:46 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: B. Chezwick
I just responded to this nasty little diatribe, which the author--or someone pretending to be the author--posted anonymously on the internet, an hour or so ago. My response to the posting, there, follows:

You, Sir, are the hatemonger. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to preserve the continuity of their community, tribe, race or nation. Nothing.

The first duty of an American Government should be to serve our own people, to preserve our resources, lands and heritage; just as the respective duty of every other Government should be to preserve for their people what is their own.

When you hide behind an anonymous name to bandy insult at those who wish to preserve the continuity of the America, achieved by better men than you, you show yourself to be not only a bigot, but a sneeky bigot to boot.

For all who want to seriously consider Immigration Reform, here is a frank discussion of what is involved: Immigration & The American Future

For those who want an answer to the nonsense the President has offered to justify the present Bill in the Senate: Answer To President Bush on Immigration

And for the forked keyboard effort of Mr. anonymous, who is obviously trying to divide rooted Americans on this issue, by misrepresenting the issue and the motives of American Conservatives, my profound contempt.

William Flax Cincinnati, Ohio

155 posted on 06/05/2007 10:45:35 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: B. Chezwick

So what you are part Mexican ancestry. You are an American and that is what matters. I have some German ancestry and I don’t give a crap about the leftist policies of Germany, nor did my family have a problem fighting them in WW II.


156 posted on 06/05/2007 10:46:11 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: B. Chezwick
If this bill were to become law none of the people affected by it would become immigrants ~ rather, they'd become a new class of peons. That is, their entire purpose in life would be to work for someone else, and with very little in the way of rights to fully participate.

It would be better to allow them to return home than to bend the Thirteenth Amendment and hold out a promise to them that will never be realized ~ after all, the conditions of naturalization can be changed anytime Congress wishes. 13 years could see all sorts of things, most of them negative.

157 posted on 06/05/2007 10:47:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B. Chezwick

No one here has attacked any legal hispanic immigrants.


158 posted on 06/05/2007 10:47:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B. Chezwick
Very long string of posts. Too difficult to check them all, but no legal hispanic immigrants were disparaged in the first 250.

On the other hand, couple of posters tagged "W" with what amount to charges that when it comes to Latin America, he's gone native and no longer has America's interests at heart.

That's about "W" and not Mexico, and even President Fox isn't an immigrant, nor an illegal alien.

159 posted on 06/05/2007 10:52:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B. Chezwick

What a steaming pile of hooey.

I’m sick of being called a bigot because I want the laws of the land enforced.


160 posted on 06/05/2007 10:54:16 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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