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Researcher says few families report safe firearm storage
Wake Forest U/Baptist Med Center ^ | 4-Jun-2007 | Rae Bush

Posted on 06/04/2007 4:16:48 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

“Our primary recommendation is that parents should remove guns from the home,” DuRant said.”

Where to start, where to start?

First, there is the overtly anti-gun premise of the author and this important factor is not even slightly veiled. Thus the bias of the “investigators” is immediately called into question.

Second, as any non-Liberal knows (and even Liberals should know), weapons are useless unless readily available. Why? Criminals prefer unarmed and unaware victims.

One can’t help wondering about the author - is he French by family origin? The name and spelling - DuRant is curious. “Du” is ‘you’ in that language. Hmmmn - “YouRant” seems all too apt for another “surrender monkey” calling for removal of guns by parents.

“Do it for the children” won’t stand critical analysis. Even assuming that removing guns would save a child’s life or prevent a shooting, given that protection of the family from crime is essential, we have to accept that some child deaths are the price of freedom - IF we refuse to train and discipline said children.

Fortunately, there is an inherent justice built into the American system. Children of hoplophobics are over represented in the population of gun related accident victims.

Dr. Durant seems to be denying the following stark reality:
In homes of those regularly described as “gun culture” members, there are far fewer such deaths than amongst the homes of the more “Liberal”, the more “Progressive”, ad nauseam.

That assumes that such people had at least sufficient notocord to have a gun in the first place.

When I grew up, I didn’t fear my fathers gun, I feared what would happen if I played with it. But, my father wasn’t a Liberal or a Progressive.

If Dr. DuRant thinks that a gun grabbing, “Do it for the children”, Nanny State gun ban will substitute for either traditional American parenting, or be acceptable to the majority of Americans, I suggest he study the number of states that have returned to Constitutional, historically proven, gun ownership AND have enacted laws to assure such rights.


21 posted on 06/04/2007 5:03:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: twonie

>> our “well-funded gun lobby” will keep them at bay

Hope so!

That means we can fund both sides of the issue! ‘cause our “well-funded” (with OUR tax dollars) NIH gave him a grant for his $%^&* study...


22 posted on 06/04/2007 5:04:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: metmom
That was my first thought as well. We had a loaded shotgun standing next to every door and a .22 semi auto next to them for varmints in the yard.
23 posted on 06/04/2007 5:08:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Pharmboy

Heh, heh, heh.....My 5 yr old has his own gun.


24 posted on 06/04/2007 5:09:26 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Pharmboy

Did you read the story about childhood ear infections in the American Rifleman? No? I wonder why?


25 posted on 06/04/2007 5:14:27 AM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: Pharmboy

It’s nonsense to keep a gun collection out where any burglar can do a smash and grab. Ditto for the people who keep guns in a car and then forget to lock their doors. A friend was walking in a parking lot and he saw a 1911 laying on the seat of a jeep. I guess the guy had plenty of insurance.

You need a gun to answer a door at night or a shotgun for trouble then do so. For anything else, keep them locked in the best fireproof safe you can afford.


26 posted on 06/04/2007 5:16:37 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Gabz

What a hydra!


27 posted on 06/04/2007 5:20:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pharmboy
having guns in the home increases the likelihood that they will be used in a suicide

I cannot disagree with this statement. However, a suicidal person having access to an automobile, a gas stove, a length of rope, or a bottle of acetominphen equally increases the likelihood that those objects will be used in a suicide.

Guns don't promote suicide any more than a spoon is to blame for Rosie O'Donnell being fat.

28 posted on 06/04/2007 5:23:05 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Cruel is a matter of perspective." Cap'n Jack Sparrow)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Any self-defense weapon must be stored where it can be quickly reached if it is to do anything to safeguard the family.

Locking the trigger, keeping the gun unloaded with the trigger lock engaged is exactly the same as not having a self-defense gun in the first place.

The over 2,000,000 incidents a year reported by the FBI of cases where a self-defense gun was used to deter or prevent crime is testimony that the average person knows more about safe firearm storage than they are given credit for.

Rather these people, who are out of their field, should be giving advise on safe ways to protect children. One of the best ways is a handy 12-guage sawed-off pump.

29 posted on 06/04/2007 5:23:16 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Pharmboy
How do you define “safe”? I can leave guns out all over the place and nobody in this house will misuse them - why? Because they were all properly trained.
30 posted on 06/04/2007 5:23:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Hey Bush! "An Inconvenient Truth" you insulted me in a manner that you will not be forgiven for.)
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To: Pharmboy

I gun safe my kids - because kid-safeing your guns doesn’t always work.

(Especially if my kids are anything like me when I was younger)


31 posted on 06/04/2007 5:24:53 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: elcid1970
My response to `how many guns do you own?’ is,

“More than I need, but not as many as I want!”

Remember: there is no such thing as having too many guns. There is no concrete definition for "too many". (see tagline)

32 posted on 06/04/2007 5:29:42 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Pharmboy

“Our primary recommendation is that parents should remove guns from the home,”


Excellent idea. So then for electrical safety, remove all electrical appliances and fixtures from the home and disconnect at the electric meter. For automobile safety, sell all your vehicles and stay at least 1000 ft away from all roads. If your child is going to another persons house to play make sure that an automobile is not stored at the home.


33 posted on 06/04/2007 5:34:05 AM PDT by Modok
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To: Pharmboy
"Few families store their firearms safely, according to a pediatric researcher...."

Sorry, he's a decade late and a dollar short on his "expert says" game.

I gave up paying any attention whatsoever to anyone claiming to be an "expert" about the time I quit believing in the "I'll still respect you in the morning.." and "I'll pay you back on Friday..." lines.

34 posted on 06/04/2007 5:36:24 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Dixie Yooper
I wish I could remember what I did with the keys to my trigger locks???

You could try shooting the locks off.

35 posted on 06/04/2007 5:38:08 AM PDT by Designer (Bookmarking my own post. It's that good!)
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To: twonie
"..properly trained children go a long way towards gun safety."

The crown jewel of wisdom.

36 posted on 06/04/2007 5:40:49 AM PDT by Designer (Bookmarking my own post. It's that good!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Keep all your guns except one in a good fire proof safe....keep the other (loaded) in the draw of your nightstand...if you must in one of those quick opening simplex lock storage lockups....


37 posted on 06/04/2007 5:41:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Pharmboy

As a society, we are at far, far, greater risk of unsafe storage of liberals than anything else.


38 posted on 06/04/2007 5:41:51 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Any self-defense weapon must be stored where it can be quickly reached if it is to do anything to safeguard the family

Back when I was single, living by myself and into it, I kept it next to my bed where it I could get to it if required. Then I met my wife, and like so many other men, found that I didn't have the time to stay proficient with it and could not get my wife interested in anything to do with firearms. Once the kids came along, it had to kept out of reach when they were little. Now my boy is 7 and can get to almost anyplace in the house if he knows there is something he wants to get to. Currently he doesn't know that I even have firearms, and if he happens to discover them, the trigger locks will at least stop him from pulling the trigger (they are unloaded). My guns are presently nothing more to me than sports equipment that don't get used anymore, and when I find a buyer who will pay a fair price, I will probably sell them, unless in the meantime a civil war starts here............

39 posted on 06/04/2007 5:42:51 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Calpernia

I thought you would appreciate it :)


40 posted on 06/04/2007 5:43:41 AM PDT by Gabz
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