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UK: No more 'ladies’ day' under sex laws shake-up (Private clubs to be regulated)
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^
| June 3, 2007
| Patrick Hennessy
Posted on 06/03/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by Stoat
No more 'ladies day' under sex laws shake-up
By Patrick Hennessy Political Editor, Sunday Telegraph Last Updated: 12:39am BST 03/06/2007
Private clubs are to be banned from discriminating against members and guests on the grounds of sex in a major shake-up of equality laws. The proposals will spell an end to the "sexist" practice of women being stopped from using certain dining rooms or bars, or only being allowed to play golf on certain days of the week. Plans for a Single Equality Act, which aims to bring up to date all existing discrimination legislation, are being drawn up by Ruth Kelly's Department for Communities and Local Government and are due to be unveiled within weeks.
Under the proposals, seen by The Sunday Telegraph, the Government intends "to make it unlawful for private clubs with both men and women as members to discriminate on grounds of sex". Ministers claim they have "for many years encouraged clubs to address this issue voluntarily" but that their calls have fallen on deaf ears. The Government continues to receive complaints from female club members who experience "blatant sex discrimination" because their access to "activities and benefits" is limited, according to a senior Whitehall source. Public consultation is expected to begin later this month ahead of the new laws, which would fulfil a Labour manifesto commitment, planned for the autumn. The laws would affect mixed-sex private members clubs - mainly London-based - where women members and guests are currently banned from certain bars or dining rooms, either permanently or at specific times of the day. They would also hit some golf clubs where women are subjected to restrictions over when they can play. Ministers have, however, shied away from an all-out clash with clubs admitting only men - or only women - members. These include some golf clubs, eight working men's clubs and a handful of "gentlemen's clubs" in London. They will be allowed to continue their single-sex admission policies. Age-restricted holiday companies such as Saga for the over-50s and Club 18-30 had feared they would have to start catering for all ages but Government sources said there were no plans to bring them under the "single equality" umbrella. |
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; discrimination; england; feminism; feminists; greatbritain; law; militantfeminism; privateclubs; sexdiscrimination; sexism; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: reg45
That’s the point -— women will no longer have privacy in any sports/exeercise club/dorm room, etc.
Let’s see what the women say when these laws are up for public comment.
Women are up for having guys in the dressing rooms? That’s what will happen.
To: gidget7
I find the use of the word manefesto quite interesting.
It brings certain ideological references directly to the table, doesn't it?
Just more feminism, and more anti-men bias by those who are feminist activist, IMHO.
Agreed.
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posted on
06/03/2007 10:35:57 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: sinanju
The Battle of Augusta was worth it to demonstrate to all and sundry how laughably little popular support the feminists actually commanded.And also how shrill, mean and completely unreasonable they are.
I would also point to the hilariously pathetic Millions for Reparations rally on the National Mall of Sept 03 as an example of an issue/cause coming out into the open and showing it was all media-generated foofaraw.
It usually requires a massive, public humiliation for the Left to learn that it's ways are in error, but that usually doesn't stop them or cause them to rethink the validity of their agenda....it usually just creates another round of caterwauling of how they are "oppressed by the Evil White Males".
One can usually write a script for these various Cause Celebes in advance and watch it play out pretty much as you had expected.
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posted on
06/03/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
They would also hit some golf clubs where women are subjected to restrictions over when they can play. Everybody know what GOLF stands for.
Guys Only Ladies Forbidden
It's one of the only places on earth men
can get away from women and have some peace of mind.
Country Club of the future.
Hmmmmmmmm....Now I just need 18 of these.
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posted on
06/03/2007 10:52:43 AM PDT
by
Major_Risktaker
(Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
To: sinanju
It was especially instructive the unlimbering of the ugliest anti-southern bigotry by Martha Burk and her fellow-travellers during that episode.I remember that....they were breathtakingly shrill, unpleasant and unintelligent.
Rather like the dusting off of racist, ethnic bigotry unleashed by the Left against the Miami Cubans during the Elian Affair of 99.
That was also awful, and a stark reminder that we have a very active Fifth Column operating here in the USA.
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posted on
06/03/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: rawhide
Did I enjoy it? LOL!!!
Only bad part was when the ‘Deans” would start yelling at me, I’d step into the mens room. They’d follow me right in yellin’ about this and that and whatever, so I’d just do what a guy usually does in the mens room and the yelling usually stopped before the ‘shake”. :-)
Also, being the “guy”, i was the appointed male chauvinists in every class. I played it up big time too, cause I was! :-)
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posted on
06/03/2007 11:04:57 AM PDT
by
JoeSixPack1
(Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
To: Major_Risktaker
It's one of the only places on earth men
can get away from women and have some peace of mind. Men and women are different, and all of this heavy-handed Government legislation will never change that...it will only make people even more unhappy than before.
I don't suppose that any of these 'women' (I'm intentionally not using the complimentary descriptor 'ladies' here) ever thought of starting their own clubs if they didn't like the way that these other clubs are run? No, that would have deprived them of the joy of destroying the existing clubs and making more men even more unhappy.
Such vile, hateful vipers they are.
Country Club of the future.
LMAO!
It has almost come to that, hasn't it? And such a vessel would need to be continually at sea and beyond the national boundaries of any country that regulates private clubs.
It seems that the only joy in life that some people are able to achieve is when they are able to make others unhappy.
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posted on
06/03/2007 11:06:10 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: SteveMcKing
Im OK with that. People wanted equal rights so give it to them!Seems they only want to be equal 'to a point'; seems a lot of women think that women shouldn't be in foxholes .
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posted on
06/03/2007 11:24:02 AM PDT
by
Inquisitive1
(I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
To: Stoat
Amazing how different the UK is from its Sister countries isn’t It. Down under Hotels can ban heterosexuals but in the UK every one has to be equal.
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posted on
06/03/2007 11:31:31 AM PDT
by
Shots
(Loose lips sink ships)
To: Stoat
So are the female-only clubs going to have to admit men now? I’m not saying there are going to be lines of men out there, but that’s what it sounds like to me.
To: rawhide
So much for "her Majesty's Secret Service".
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posted on
06/03/2007 12:46:47 PM PDT
by
tflabo
(<p>)
To: tflabo
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posted on
06/03/2007 1:11:32 PM PDT
by
rawhide
To: Inquisitive1
Yes, that's exactly it... they don't really know what it is they are asking for, and the ones who do should know it's absurd.
Equality and equivalence are not the same. Whether it's gay/women's/ or any other "rights", they want the world to believe that any two things are perfect synonyms for each other.
To: Shots
Amazing how different the UK is from its Sister countries isnt It. Down under Hotels can ban heterosexuals but in the UK every one has to be equal.Although Australia has it's share of certain troubles, it seems that the cancer of Socialism has not metastasized so very badly there...yet.
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posted on
06/03/2007 2:42:57 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Secret Agent Man
So are the female-only clubs going to have to admit men now? Im not saying there are going to be lines of men out there, but thats what it sounds like to me.Under this proposed law, it seems that they would have no grounds to refuse men, transsexuals, or anyone at all on sexual grounds.
They may possibly realize that they have bitten off quite a bit more than they care to chew when the cross-dressers start lining up at the registration desk (and demanding to use the same restrooms as the women).
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posted on
06/03/2007 2:47:38 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
Well, while I agree with you that they probably don’t realize what equality will mean to their clubs, I am sure that (like liberals here) they will re-write things so that women will become a protected class to which these equality laws won’t apply because they’l feel unsafe, can’t do whatever with men around, blah, blah, blah...
You know the drill.
To: JoeSixPack1
Also, being the guy, i was the appointed male chauvinists in every class. I played it up big time too, cause I was! :-)
Please, pardon my envy. Blackbird.
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:14:20 AM PDT
by
BlackbirdSST
(Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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