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To: brydic1
You are right. There is no democrat politician in my red state that would be so stupid to insult his union member constituents by repeatingly defending illegal immigration by claiming we need them to do the work Americans won’t do. Only republicans are stupid enough to repeat that kind of refrain.

Democrat politicians in red states lie and to prove that point .. just take a look at Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano

Here's the thing .. there are jobs that americans won't/can't do .. so on that point the President is not completely wrong

So yes, there is a need for a guest workers

The problem is .. there AREN'T 12-20 million jobs that americans won't/can't do

And the President isn't completely wrong about this bill not being a blanket amensty bill

Though it's pretty damn close to it with the Z visa plan

It would be more productive to actually point out what is wrong with this immigration bill then to just running around sounding like the Daily Kos

258 posted on 06/03/2007 7:44:51 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mo1

“Here’s the thing .. there are jobs that americans won’t/can’t do ...”

Incorrect. But if you add the phrase, “at, near or below minumum wage with no benefits” you’d be correct.


270 posted on 06/03/2007 7:51:16 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Mo1
Though it's pretty damn close to it with the Z visa plan

I suggest we instigate a Z Retirement Test Plan with these interlopers/illegals/criminals/guests (pick one).

Here's the details:
1-Issue each of these "guests" a unique ID card beginning with, yep you guessed it, Z.
2-Tax them (at the social security rate), collect money, put it into a fund untouchable by anyone, especially politicians.
3-Let this fund accrue interest at whatever the current rate may be.
4- In 10 years compare the Z Fund with the Social Security Fund for a like number of workers.
5- In 10 years ship all of 'em home with their Z Fund stash (Most will be glad to go.)

Oh yeah, almost forgot. Eliminate the "Born here, automatic citizenship" program and if these guests do get sick, deduct cost of healthcare from "their" Z Fund. I'll bet they'll be healthier than you can imagine.

This might need some tweaking, but it's a heck of a lot better plan than the Amnesty Plan.

:)

414 posted on 06/03/2007 8:46:41 AM PDT by Chuck54 (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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