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Is the African AIDS pandemic a bluff?
Afrol News ^ | 2 Jun 07 | Rainer Chr. Hennig, afrol News editor

Posted on 06/02/2007 12:31:04 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
Related article from The Spectator (U.K.) -- 12/13/03:

Africa isn’t dying of Aids

21 posted on 06/02/2007 12:55:01 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: sheana
The "giant sucking sound" was United States Presidential candidate Ross Perot's colorful phrase for what he believed would be the negative effects of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which he opposed.

Somehow that 'giant sucking sound' phrase is quite appropriate when used in conjunction with AIDS related leeching of the US taxpayers $$ being sucked down the 3rd world's morally corrupted gutters. Sounds almost sleazy here!

22 posted on 06/02/2007 12:58:09 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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To: xzins

” Foreign aid is when the poor people of a rich country give money to the rich people of a poor country.” Author Unknown


23 posted on 06/02/2007 12:58:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

LOL. I like that.


24 posted on 06/02/2007 12:58:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

OMG...hits the nail on the head with that description.


25 posted on 06/02/2007 12:59:40 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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To: tflabo; hosepipe

It is right on the money, isn’t it?


26 posted on 06/02/2007 1:00:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

Yeh...on and out of too.


27 posted on 06/02/2007 1:01:48 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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To: DBrow
"devasation" that is the word used over and over again to describe the terrible mass death of Africans due to AIDS....

Africa is alive and its population continues to grow.....that doesn't sound like "devastation" to me...

28 posted on 06/02/2007 1:21:07 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
Africa is alive and its population continues to grow

That does seem to argue against the reported aids epidemic in Africa, doesn't it?

29 posted on 06/02/2007 1:44:15 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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Perhaps the exact numbers are off but i’ve been to Africa twice on mission trips and I can assure you that AIDS has spread a ton of human misery on that continent. In some countries average live expectancy is down almost 20 years. Yes the population may be growing in Africa but thats because of an absurdly high birthrate. A lot of folks are dying young over there and the tragedy should not be minimized.


30 posted on 06/02/2007 2:11:54 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

Perhaps you read the entire article. In addition to population stats, it points to differences in diagnostic procedure. There are many diseases that kill people in Africa that would be classed as aids based on the symptoms.


31 posted on 06/02/2007 2:15:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Gideon Reader

“So EFF’em. Let them die.”

That is the single least Christian statement I’ve ever seen on here.


32 posted on 06/02/2007 2:23:09 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: xzins
Does the US government send humvees, dune buggies or similar vehicles thru the jungles to test people for aids.. that always amazes me as to where they do the testing..
33 posted on 06/02/2007 2:24:09 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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They don’t do testing is the point of this article.

They diagnose aids based on symptoms....symptoms that are shared by a host of other diseases, to include, IIRC, tuberculosis, the #1 killer in Africa.


34 posted on 06/02/2007 2:26:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

interesting article, some people have been saying this for years:

“For God’s Sake, Please Stop the Aid!”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,druck-363663,00.html


35 posted on 06/02/2007 2:49:32 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: SmoothTalker

It is no wonder.
I, Sir,(or Madame) am NOT a Christian.
Does that clear things up for you?
Glad to have obliged.


36 posted on 06/02/2007 3:22:43 PM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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To: xzins

The numbers could be inflated and still be a horrific pandemic of biblical proportions.


37 posted on 06/02/2007 4:07:12 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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To: xzins
Here's a laugher! AIDs is the biggest most expensive scam ever invented by the homosexuals. What a joke.

1. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, it must be abundant in AIDS patients based on “exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases.”

But, only antibodies against HIV are found in most patients (1–7)**. Therefore, “HIV infection is identified in blood by detecting antibodies, gene sequences, or viral isolation.” But, HIV can only be “isolated” from rare, latently infected lymphocytes that have been cultured for weeks in vitro – away from the antibodies of the human host (8). Thus HIV behaves like a latent passenger virus.

2. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, there is no AIDS in HIV-free people.

But, the AIDS literature has described at least 4621 HIVfree AIDS cases according to one survey – irrespective of, or in agreement with allowances made by the CDC for HIV-free AIDS cases (55).

3. The retrovirus HIV causes immunodeficiency by killing T-cells (1–3).

But, retroviruses do not kill cells because they depend on viable cells for the replication of their RNA from viral DNA integrated into cellular DNA (4, 25). Thus, T-cells infected in vitro thrive, and those patented to mass-produce HIV for the detection of HIV antibodies and diag nosis of AIDS are immortal (9–15)!

4. Following “exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases”, HIV causes AIDS by killing more T-cells than the body can replace. Thus T-cells or “CD4 lymphocytes . . . become depleted in people with AIDS”.

But, even in patients dying from AIDS less than 1 in 500 of the T-cells “that become depleted” are ever infected by HIV (16–20, 54). This rate of infection is the hallmark of a latent passenger virus (21).

5. With an RNA of 9 kilobases, just like polio virus, HIV should be able to cause one specific disease, or no disease if it is a passenger (22).

But, HIV is said to be “the sole cause of AIDS”, or of 26 different immunodeficiency and non-immunodeficiency diseases, all of which also occur without HIV. Thus there is not one HIV-specific disease, which is the definition of a passenger virus!

6. All viruses are most pathogenic prior to anti-viral immunity. Therefore, preemptive immunization with Jennerian vaccines is used to protect against all viral diseases since 1798.

But, AIDS is observed – by definition – only after anti- HIV immunity is established, a positive HIV/AIDS test (23). Thus HIV cannot cause AIDS by “the same criteria” as conventional viruses.

7. HIV needs “5–10 years” from establishing antiviral immunity to cause AIDS.

But, HIV replicates in 1 day, generating over 100 new HIVs per cell (24, 25). Accordingly, HIV is immunogenic, i.e. biochemically most active, within weeks after infection (26, 27). Thus, based on conventional criteria “for other viral disea ses”, HIV should also cause AIDS within weeks – if it could.

8. “Most people with HIV infection show signs of AIDS within 5–10 years” – the justification for prophylaxis of AIDS with the DNA chain terminator AZT (§ 4).

But, of “34×3 million . . . with HIV worldwide” only 1×4% [= 471,457 (obtained by substracting the WHO’s cumulative total of 1999 from that of 2000)] developed AIDS in 2000, and similarly low percentages prevailed in all previous years (28). Likewise, in 1985, only 1×2% of the 1 million US citizens with HIV developed AIDS (29, 30). Since an annual incidence of 1×2–1×4% of all 26 AIDS defining diseases combined is no more than the normal mortality in the US and Europe (life ex pectancy of 75 years), HIV must be a passenger virus.

9. A vaccine against HIV should (“is hoped” to) prevent AIDS – the reason why AIDS researchers try to develop an AIDS vaccine since 1984 (31).

But, despite enormous efforts there is no such vaccine to this day (31). Moreover, since AIDS occurs by definition only in the presence of natural antibodies against HIV (§ 3), and since natural antibodies are so effective that no HIV is detectable in AIDS patients (see No. 1), even the hopes for a vaccine are irrational.

10. HIV, like other viruses, survives by transmission from host to host, which is said to be mediated “through sexual contact”.

But, only 1 in 1000 unprotected sexual contacts transmits HIV (32–34), and only 1 of 275 US citizens is HIV-infected (29, 30), (figure 1b). Therefore, an average un-infected US citizen needs 275,000 random “sexual contacts” to get infected and spread HIV – an unlikely basis for an epidemic!

11. “AIDS spreads by infection” of HIV. But, contrary to the spread of AIDS, there is no “spread” of HIV in the US. In the US HIV infections have remained constant at 1 million from 1985 (29) until now (30), (see also The Durban Declaration and figure 1b). By contrast, AIDS has increased from 1981 until 1992 and has declined ever since (figure 1a).

12. Many of the 3 million people who annually receive blood transfusions in the US for life-threatening diseases (51), should have developed AIDS from HIV-infected blood donors prior to the elimination of HIV from the blood supply in 1985.

But there was no increase in AIDS-defining diseases in HIV-positive transfusion recipients in the AIDS era (52), and no AIDS-defining Kaposi’s sarcoma has ever been observed in millions of transfusion recipients (53).

13. Doctors are at high risk to contract AIDS from patients, HIV researchers from virus preparations, wives of HIV-positive hemophiliacs from husbands, and prostitutes from clients – particularly since there is no HIV vaccine.

But, in the peer-reviewed literature there is not one doctor or nurse who has ever contracted AIDS (not just HIV) from the over 816,000 AIDS patients recorded in the US in 22 years (30). Not one of over ten thousand HIV researchers has contracted AIDS. Wives of hemophiliacs do not get AIDS (35). And there is no AIDS-epidemic in prostitutes (36–38). Thus AIDS is not contagious (39, 40).

14. Viral AIDS – like all viral/microbial epidemics in the past (41–43) – should spread randomly in a population.

But, in the US and Europe AIDS is restricted since 1981 to two main risk groups, intravenous drug users and male homosexual drug users (§ 1 and 4).

15. A viral AIDS epidemic should form a classical, bell-shaped chronological curve (41–43), rising exponentially via virus spread and declining exponentially via natural immunity, within months (see figure 3a).

But, AIDS has been increasing slowly since 1981 for 12 years and is now declining since 1993 (figure 1a), just like a lifestyle epidemic, as for example lung cancer from smoking (figure 3b).

16. AIDS should be a pediatric epidemic now, because HIV is transmitted “from mother to infant” at rates of 25–50% (44– 49), and because “34×3 million people worldwide” were already infected in 2000. To reduce the high maternal transmission rate HIV-antibody-positive pregnant mothers are treated with AZT for up to 6 months prior to birth (§ 4).

But, less than 1% of AIDS in the US and Europe is pediatric (30, 50). Thus HIV must be a passenger virus in newborns.

17. “HIV recognizes no social, political or geographic borders” – just like all other viruses.

But, the presumably HIV-caused AIDS epidemics of Africa and of the US and Europe differ both clinically and epidemiologically (§ 1, table 2). The US/European epidemic is highly nonrandom, 80% male and restricted to abnormal risk groups, whereas the African epidemic is random.

38 posted on 06/02/2007 4:18:16 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: gondramB

Unfortunately, you appear to have slept through bio 101! Wake up!


39 posted on 06/02/2007 4:19:43 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: Doc Savage

So what would be the summary of your 17 points?


40 posted on 06/02/2007 4:20:05 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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