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Bush’s Push on Immigration Tests His Base (FR Mentioned)
NY Times ^ | June 3, 2007 | JIM RUTENBERG and CARL HULSE

Posted on 06/02/2007 10:22:51 AM PDT by nj26

President Bush’s advocacy of an immigration overhaul and his attacks on critics of the plan are provoking an unusually intense backlash from conservatives who form the bulwark of his remaining support, splintering his base and laying bare divisions within a party whose unity has been the envy of Democrats.

It has pitted some of Mr. Bush’s most stalwart Congressional and grass-roots backers against him, sparking a vitriol that has at times exceeded anything seen yet between Mr. Bush and his supporters, who have generally stood with him through the toughest patches of his presidency. Those supporters now view him as pursuing amnesty for foreign law breakers when he should be focusing on border security.

Postings on conservative Web sites this week have gone so far as to call for Mr. Bush’s impeachment, and usually friendly radio hosts, commentators and Congressional allies are warning that he stands to lose supporters — a potentially damaging development, they say, when he needs all the backing he can get on other vital matters like the war in Iraq.

“I think President Bush hurts himself every time he says it is not amnesty,” said Senator Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, referring to the bill’s legalization process for immigrants. “We are not all that stupid.”

This week, in discussing Mr. Bush’s recent comments accusing conservative critics of the immigration legislation of fear-mongering, Rush Limbaugh told listeners: “I just wish he hadn’t done it because he’s not going to lose me on Iraq, and he’s not going to lose me on national security. But he might lose some of you.”

Such sentiments have reverberated through talk radio, conservative publications like National Review and Fox News. They have also appeared on Web sites including RedState.com and FreeRepublic.com...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Free Republic; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; benedictarnold; borders; deathofthegop; enemedia; freerepublic; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; jimmycarter2; liberalmedia; mediabias; sellout; trysellingthetruth
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To: Merlinator
The lefties at Media Matters reviewed this "Path to Citizenship" claim last year. Bush's proposals had not previously included a "path to citizenship".

Hume falsely claimed Bush proposed "path to citizenship" for illegal immigrants

Cite your source for Bush's message on immigration including a "Path to Citizenship" in 2004. So, Bush has lied, because he ran for re-election on "No Amnesty", and now it is Christmas for Illegals.

201 posted on 06/02/2007 11:24:11 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: nj26

202 posted on 06/02/2007 11:32:22 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: Merlinator
White House proposal in 2004. Temporary status only, no advantage for illegals to gain permanent residence.

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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
January 7, 2004

Fact Sheet: Fair and Secure Immigration Reform

Today's Presidential Action

Background on Today's Presidential Action

America is a welcoming nation, and the hard work and strength of our immigrants have made our Nation prosperous. Many immigrants and sons and daughters of immigrants have joined the military to help safeguard the liberty of America. Illegal immigration, however, creates an underclass of workers, afraid and vulnerable to exploitation. Current immigration law can also hinder companies from finding willing workers. The visas now available do not allow employers to fill jobs in many key sectors of our economy. Workers risk their lives in dangerous and illegal border crossings and are consigned to live their lives in the shadows. Without harming the economic security of Americans, reform of our Nation's immigration laws will create a system that is fairer, more consistent, and more compassionate.

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203 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:38 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

204 posted on 06/02/2007 11:34:00 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: LibertyRocks
You may wish to read post 195...

Don't confuse him with facts.
205 posted on 06/02/2007 11:34:16 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Plutarch; All

The Base wants elected officials to pursue employers who hire illegal immigrants and prosecute them for violation of federal laws and vigorously enforce our current immigration laws and prosecute illegal immigrants.


206 posted on 06/02/2007 11:35:10 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: nj26

207 posted on 06/02/2007 11:37:13 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: Plutarch

BTTT


208 posted on 06/02/2007 11:40:54 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Sneaking In is NOT Immigration!!!)
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To: Plutarch

That is Bull! He mentioned a path to citizenship numerous times in his 2004 campaign stomps. The word amnesty is being used very conveniently to label this bill as something it is not. Amnesty would be to grant instant citizenship, something that this bill does not do. It gives otherwise law abiding people that have been working here and want a better life a chance to come out of the shadows, pay a fine and taxes and legally be here. It puts them on a path to citizenship if that is what they desire, but does not grant it to them, or even give them an advantage over other applicants.


209 posted on 06/02/2007 11:44:10 PM PDT by Merlinator (The dems think pulling out is a good idea? It would have been a good strategy for their daddies.)
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210 posted on 06/02/2007 11:50:08 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: Kozak

(o: LOLOL


211 posted on 06/02/2007 11:50:29 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: nj26
I am so p*ssed about this whole idiotic episode I can't see straight! The 'Country Club Republicans' are at it again. They can all kiss my fanny. I want nothing to do with them anymore.

One thing I do know for sure, Jeb hasn't a chance in hell of getting my vote in any future presidential primary. I'm sure he would prove to be the same as dad and bro.

Nam Vet

212 posted on 06/02/2007 11:51:04 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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To: Merlinator

Amnesty has nothing to do with citizenship. Amnesty is allowing those who break the law to avoid punishment. I’d like to understand how those who have committed Identity Theft, and Tax Evasion are going to be punished? If it’s not the same punishment as American CITIZENS receive for these criminal acts then it is amnesty.

From Merriam-Webster:

amnesty
One entry found for amnesty.
Main Entry: am·nes·ty
Pronunciation: ‘am-n&-stE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Greek amnEstia forgetfulness, from amnEstos forgotten, from a- + mnasthai to remember — more at MIND
: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
- amnesty transitive verb

From Cambridge Online:
amnesty
[Show phonetics]
noun [C/U]
a decision by a government to forgive people who have committed particular illegal acts or crimes, and not to punish them


216 posted on 06/03/2007 12:00:19 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: Nam Vet

“Jeb hasn’t a chance in hell of getting my vote in any future presidential primary. “

An explanation for Papa Bush’s tears?


217 posted on 06/03/2007 12:05:51 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Merlinator

Oh, and as for the term ‘otherwise law-abiding’ — who are you kidding? Do you have any idea how many laws illegal immigrants must break on a daily basis just to get by while being in this country illegally? And, what about those who aided and abetted them in committing these crimes (i.e. Businesses who hire them without proper paperwork, and thereby have also committed Social Security Fraud by not paying taxes for them) — no mention of any punishment for them, either...

As for advantage over other applicants — I’m sure the hundreds of thousands of would-be immigrants who have waited decades just for the chance to come here would disagree with you...


218 posted on 06/03/2007 12:06:06 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: LFOD777

Thanks for posting that LFOD777... As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.


220 posted on 06/03/2007 12:08:38 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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