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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
"It will keep out drug smugglers and narco gangs."

Not if they're FLYING of driving a FAST BOAT. How big do you want this wall to be?

"It will keep out many violent street criminals."

Is this assuming that only non-violent ones come here via plane or boat?

"It will keep out TB and who knows what else."

That stupid lawer going around the world infecting everybody with TB is an AMERICAN CITIZEN not an immigrant, and he got around the world ON A PLANE.

"It won’t take ALL our money to build a fence."

It will if you want it to cover the air and sea as well as the Mexican border.

"It will keep out people who don’t respect our laws but demand a political voice."

We've millions of THEM who's families have been here for generations.

"It will keep out future Dem voters."

See above.

"It will keep out people who have no intention of assimilating."

On the border threads, assimilation seems to be the LAST thing on the minds of border bots. Come to think of it, reality is too, since they blame Bush every time he tries to get legislation passed to build border fence, every time he gets legislation passed to build border fence and every time the fence that's slated to BE built doesn't GET built because "human rights groups" and "environmentalists" have it tied up in court.

Thank you, however, for thinking of assimilation. IMO, we need to impliment a policy of assimilation back into the public school system, just we we did post WWII and Viet Nam.

Registering those illegals who are here will only work for those who come up to be registered. Those will be the honest ones. That still leaves the basic problem of the dishonest ones. And if we deport all the honest ones, leaving only the dishonest ones....the plan seems to have some serious flaws.

336 posted on 06/03/2007 3:54:48 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb

“Not if they’re FLYING of driving a FAST BOAT. How big do you want this wall to be?”

If the smugglers are shunted to smuggling by boat or plane INSTEAD of boat, plane, or overland, that will still be a success. The coast guard can cover the boat angle. The plane has to land somewhere.

It’s much easier to hide in gulches and washes and mountains than it is by being out in the open in air or on sea!


“That stupid lawer going around the world infecting everybody with TB is an AMERICAN CITIZEN not an immigrant, and he got around the world ON A PLANE”

I wasn’t specifically referring to him. I’m aware of that. Of course, you’re making the mistake again of confusing some with all. Putting a lock on your homes doors won’t keep out all robbers, but it will keep out most. In this case, you pointed out one person who was not mexican who was an infection vector, and presented him as an adequate sample, when in fact he is not.

This is eye opening:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050608-122811-2326r.htm

I quote:
A multidrug-resistant tuberculosis known as MDR-TB is persistent in California, primarily among its “foreign-born” population, and has serious financial implications for the state’s public-health system, federal and state health officials said yesterday.
“Treatment for MDR-TB is very expensive — ranging from $200,000 to $1.2 million per person, over an 18- to 24-month time period,” said Dr. Reuben Granich, a lead investigator for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during a press conference in the District yesterday.
Dr. Granich’s findings were published yesterday in tomorrow’s issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in an article co-written with California health officials.
The article studied 38,291 reported tuberculosis cases in California from 1994 to 2003. Of those, 407 were classified as drug-resistant and were found mostly in patients from Mexico or the Philippines, Dr. Granich said.
He added that 84 percent of patients infected with MDR-TB “were foreign born” and that those infected are four times as likely to die from the disease and twice as likely to “transmit the disease to others” than other tuberculosis patients.

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A study from the U.S.-Mexico Border Counties Coalition, for example, found that the four states bordering Mexico are still owed more than $200 million in costs from the emergency treatment and transport of ailing or injured illegals.


“It will if you want it to cover the air and sea as well as the Mexican border.”

It won’t take a lot to build the 700 some miles in Hunters bill that was passed - but for which it is the administration who is holding it up. 2 miles or so have been built. 2. Again - it will be a good first step and will immensely cut down on human and narco smuggling, shunting that which remains to more easily detected routes.

“We’ve millions of THEM who’s families have been here for generations.”

So that makes it OK to accept unknown millions MORE? You have a real weird sense of logic...


“On the border threads, assimilation seems to be the LAST thing on the minds of border bots. Come to think of it, reality is too, since they blame Bush every time he tries to get legislation passed to build border fence, every time he gets legislation passed to build border fence and every time the fence that’s slated to BE built doesn’t GET built because “human rights groups” and “environmentalists” have it tied up in court.”

Lay the blame where it deserves to be. Bush is the one holding this up now - not the watermelons. (green on the outside, red on the inside.) Bush is opposed to vigorous border enforcement - he has abdicated his sworn duties.


“Registering those illegals who are here will only work for those who come up to be registered. Those will be the honest ones. That still leaves the basic problem of the dishonest ones. And if we deport all the honest ones, leaving only the dishonest ones....the plan seems to have some serious flaws.”

Agree there - there is no incentive to register. The plan sucks. Bush lost me over it. I question his sense of judgment.


347 posted on 06/03/2007 9:38:11 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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