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Time to Split the Blanket
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| June 2, 2007
| Pat Buchanan
Posted on 06/02/2007 5:31:20 AM PDT by oldtimer2
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I have been very negative about Pat for several years, but I am reading more and more articles by conservatives that I admire about distancing conservative goals fron the present Republican Party. Maybe we need to have a discussion.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:31:21 AM PDT
by
oldtimer2
To: oldtimer2
Pat’s right (except for that “lovk and load” line).
A lot of Freepers denegrate Pat when he is anti-Iraq war, but he is right in this column. Maybe he was right on other things, too.
To: oldtimer2
Pat, like the rest of us, is right about some things and wrong about others. I’m just really unhappy that the man that we the people elected has chosen to attack us as racists.
Quite frankly it doesn’t matter if we’re racists or not. He is still a civil servant and we’re still entitled to representation. If he doesn’t like it, there’s nothing preventing him from stepping aside and letting someone who wants to represent us take over.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:42:40 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
To: oldtimer2
I have been very negative about Pat for several years, but I am reading more and more articles by conservatives that I admire about distancing conservative goals fron the present Republican Party. Maybe we need to have a discussion.
Try listening to Pat in the original German, and you'll reconsider that notion.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:47:01 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
To: oldtimer2
Because, Peggy, down deep where they live, they don't like the right, never did and have always sought to be seen by the Big Media as the progressive children of a dysfunctional and retarded family. That's brilliant. Go Pat!
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:50:26 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
To: Puddleglum
A lot of Freepers denegrate Pat when he is anti-Iraq war, but he is right in this column. What makes the supporters of this immigration bill so p!ssed off is that if Pat is right on this one, then he's right to be opposed to the war in Iraq, too.
Sending 130,000+ troops halfway around the world to establish an Islamic state in a Third World sh!t-hole while at the same time allowing millions of illegal immigrants to pour across our southern border basically exposes this so-called "war on terror" as a complete fraud -- and these people know it.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:55:09 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
To: oldtimer2
"Some people just don't like Mexicans...Some Most people just don't like Mexicans CRIMINALS.
There, fixed it.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:56:59 AM PDT
by
CPOSharky
(An organization that kills those who do not believe it's dogma is NOT a religion.)
To: oldtimer2
"Some people just don't like Mexicans -- or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans...
CORRECTION:
"Some [genuinely patriotic] people just don't like [treasonous politicians doing nothing to prevent] Mexicans [pouring into our country illegally in a flood like lemmings] -- or anyone else from south of the border [, or the middle east, or Asia, or from anywhere else who are coming in illegally]. They think [some politicians and media types won't acknowledge that many, many] Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy [or arrogant] to learn English. They think [that too many] Latinos have too many babies [for anchor purposes] and that [unassimilated and illegal] Latino kids will [clearly] dumb down our schools [as evidence already shows]. They think [the barrios in south LA clearly show that some] Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and [myriads of news stories prove that many illegals are] more prone to criminal behavior. They think [illegal, and therefore criminal,] Latinos are just [that - criminal - and because of this pernicious and glaring fact,] too different from us ever to become real Americans [because real Americans come through legal channels and are legally naturalized].
THERE, THAT SHOULD DO IT.
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posted on
06/02/2007 5:57:37 AM PDT
by
WorkingClassFilth
(Current tagline banned under hate speech laws.)
To: Puddleglum
Pat is right about a lot of things, AND the things he is right about are the things that would make the GOP stronger if it lined up with him.
America is not an economy with some features of nationhood. The economy exists to serve the people, not the other way around.
But, unfortunately for Pat, he has a blind spot a mile wide. His affection for the Germans, and his ability to empathize with their collective suffering from 1914-1945, is morally obtuse. The fact that it gets him into trouble with Jews is the most important practical effect of this problem, but it's much deeper than Jews.
The German nation, in a more democratic way than most, brought all of its suffering upon itself, and what they got, they deserved. This is an important insight for someone who would himself lead a nation, and it is an insight which Pat totally and completely lacks.
It's a shame.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:00:57 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
To: mkjessup
You Bushbots are out early this morning.
Try actually engaging in a discussion instead of just name-calling.
To: mkjessup
thanks for the coffee spew..LOL...
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:04:43 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: webstersII
I need someone to explain how someone is unpatriotic because they oppose amnesty for criminals.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:06:37 AM PDT
by
Enterprise
(I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
To: oldtimer2
If only Buchanan weren’t a rabid anti-Semite I’d more likely listen to him.
To: oldtimer2
If we look back it is evident that “W” was showing his Rockefeller Republican side almost as soon as he entered the White House.
The Kennedy education bill was the tip off that we willfully ignored. “W”s trial balloon on immigration in his first term was something we should have known he was going to try to force on us in his second term.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:16:41 AM PDT
by
em2vn
To: mkjessup
Try listening to Pat in the original German, and you'll reconsider that notion.That's a low blow
Pat may be accused of many things, but being fluent in German isn't one of them.
: )
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT
by
Popman
(New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
To: oldtimer2
Jorge, you really don’t want to get me started about right and wrong and who’s selling out America.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:21:54 AM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: em2vn
In the flame-wars of the not-so-distant past, there were many who knew the score. It is too bad that many are coming to realize the truth, only now. It will take a great deal of work to ensure that conservatism does not go the way of the dinosaur.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:26:05 AM PDT
by
David Isaac
(Duncan Hunter '08)
To: Puddleglum
Pat has changed positions on many issues in the past twenty years or so. Somewhere or another he got the idea in his head that the trade unionist view of economics was the correct one. He’s also a raghead lover. Thats the real reason he hates Israel and opposes our us of force against radical Islam.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:28:17 AM PDT
by
Oklahoma
To: cripplecreek
“Pat, like the rest of us, is right about some things and wrong about others. Im just really unhappy that the man that we the people elected has chosen to attack us as racists.”
Very true.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:54:58 AM PDT
by
Smocker
To: oldtimer2
The basic thrust of this article is right. Good content and good polemic as in:
Because, Peggy, down deep where they live, they don't like the right, never did and have always sought to be seen by the Big Media as the progressive children of a dysfunctional and retarded family.
But since he mentioned it, I have to say I cannot agree with Pats anti-free trade opinions. As a general rule, the free trade of goods, like freedom itself, is beneficial to us.
But sometimes something is more important. For example, in the sale of military equipment, national defense is more important. And people are different than goods. Tourism is O.K, but terrorism, and illegal immigration are not. There are issues associated with legal migrant workers.
When a conservative thinks something is out of kilter, he might consider Reagans adage that the government isnt the solution, its the problem. I suspect that domestic goods are taxed at a higher rate than foreign goods. That would favor foreign manufacture. Maybe the Fair tax would tax both equally.
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posted on
06/02/2007 6:58:58 AM PDT
by
ChessExpert
(George Bush: Read my lips. It's not an amnesty bill)
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