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Peggy Noonan and The WSJ Editorial - It's Time to Revolt!
Red State ^ | June 1, 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.

Try this clip on for size :

The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.

For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.

But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."

The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bbs; bds; crimaliens; deathofthegop; holierthanthou; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; invasion; noamnestyforillegals; noonan; peggyisrighton; zerovisa
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To: hosepipe
Even NOW Bushbots are eye rolling tongue hanging out dumb..

jveritas is still sipping Kool-Aid with elan.

301 posted on 06/01/2007 10:17:45 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Tom Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: jrooney

-—Well, I do not take kindly to be calling a liar. -—

I called the RNC liars, but maybe you should get used to it if you plan on sticking up for the bankrupt policies of this administration.

-—Why don’t you quit be a damn whiner!-—

Spoken like a true member of inner circle! As Peggy said:

“I suspect the White House and its allies have turned to name calling because they’re defensive, and they’re defensive because they know they have produced a big and indecipherable mess of a bill—one that is literally bigger than the Bible, though as someone noted last week, at least we actually had a few years to read the Bible. The White House and its supporters seem to be marshalling not facts but only sentiments, and self-aggrandizing ones at that. “


302 posted on 06/01/2007 10:18:25 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: jveritas

We can understand your appreciation for GW Bush and his freeing of millions of persons under Saddam Hussein.

But think for one moment, any good conservative could had done the same thing, it’s not really dependent on GW Bush, we could have had the same outcome with another Republican, or even a blue dog democrat.

In baseball, we can get stuck on a ‘name’ player without realizing that although this great player has impressive statistics, he is deficient in other qualities that relate to the team. In Seattle for example, the Mariners baseball team had A-Rod (Alex Rodriguez) belting numerous homeruns and piling up really impressive statistics, yet the team always finished in the bottom half. After A-Rod was traded away, the Mariners went to their next season and won 116 games. The reason was said to be partly because A-Rod was interested in A-Rod.

What I am saying is, let’s fondly remember GWB for his 1st term amd all the good things he accomplished then, but let’s tell ourselves that we can have better by respectiful criticicism of the current policies.


303 posted on 06/01/2007 10:20:11 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Antoninus

Blood bath of epic proportions??? I doubt it very much. The Republicans are going to keep the White House in 2008. None of those democrats can win the Presidency, only Al Gore will be the biggest threat if he runs.


304 posted on 06/01/2007 10:20:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jrooney

So what? It’s just your opinion.

As far as the words in red...you say she complained that he referenced God too much, then you accused her of not wanting God referenced at all.


305 posted on 06/01/2007 10:22:32 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Doohickey
No shiite. He left office in 98 but controlled the house from 94 to 98. Why in the hell did he not pass a strong immigration reform when he had a solidly conservative house majority? Because it was not important to him. It was important for Newt to talk about his contract with America, all along while he was out chasing any skirt he could, including while impeaching the SOB Clinton. Newt could have done something on immigration if he truly cared about the problem. He chose not to because finding some kitty was more important to him. That skirt chasing morally defunct mouthpiece had his chance and FAILED, and he and Noonan will not get a pass from me.
306 posted on 06/01/2007 10:22:42 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: claudiustg

So nice of Noonan to say something about the bible, since she has a problem with GW referencing God too much. And she is a conservative? A hypocrite more like it. What type of conservative has a problem with God being referenced?


307 posted on 06/01/2007 10:25:33 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jveritas
Blood bath of epic proportions??? I doubt it very much.

Did you doubt it in 2006 too? I didn't. I called it early on based on this very issue. Here's what's really worrying--last Monday, I heard a report on our local news radio station about the "immigration reform bill." It featured Republican Arlen Specter as being in favor of the bill, and Democrat Bob Menendez being oppposed. The Democrats and their willing accomplices in the media are spinning this so that they'll get their anmesty bill, and the full furor of the American people over it will be focused on the Republican party.

As I said, it's got all the makings of a catastrophic election season in 2008 for the GOP. There's still time to rescue the situation, but we're really getting to Hail Mary time, as far as I'm concerned.
308 posted on 06/01/2007 10:25:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: jveritas

“The small businesses are not going to obey the laws of hiring illegal immigrants because the government is not going to persecute them on this issue because doing so will wreck the economy.”

Then a new economy will surface. You’re still pretending we had no economy before millions of illegals slithered in to reap the rewards of our great economy.

You’re gonna need a new argument.


309 posted on 06/01/2007 10:29:28 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: PeterFinn

I second that.


310 posted on 06/01/2007 10:31:15 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: PeterFinn; jveritas; elan
[.. jveritas is still sipping Kool-Aid with elan. ..]

GW could urinate on their leg and tell them its raining and they would be optimistic about the weather tomorrow..

311 posted on 06/01/2007 10:32:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: jrooney

Huh?

Honest people do not use God to prop up arguments that they cannot support with facts and logic.

I think that is the nature of the lady’s complaint.


312 posted on 06/01/2007 10:32:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: jveritas; 1-505th_airborne_medic
Being a minority on FR (or anywhere else) doesn’t bother me at all.

To feverishly run with a cattle stampede to be in the style of the moment would not only be bothersome - but truly shameful.

I, along with plenty of others, know that President Bush does what he believes is right - not from political calculation and use of focus groups, but from a deep, abiding Faith in the Lord.

A final word:

“The Lord knows the thoughts of men, that they are but a puff of wind.” (Psalm 94:11).

313 posted on 06/01/2007 10:33:15 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: jrooney

You can drink that koolaid all by yourself.


314 posted on 06/01/2007 10:33:15 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: mtntop3

Amen, Amen, and Amen.


315 posted on 06/01/2007 10:34:07 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Elsiejay

Well said.


316 posted on 06/01/2007 10:34:23 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: livius

Thank yourself.
You’re exactly the sort that has enabled the treason lobby.


317 posted on 06/01/2007 10:36:03 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: mtntop3
I, along with plenty of others, know that President Bush does what he believes is right - not from political calculation and use of focus groups, but from a deep, abiding Faith in the Lord.

Bush is terribly wrong on this issue. He will destroy the country and the GOP if he is successful. I could care less about his motivation. It is the result I am concerned about.

318 posted on 06/01/2007 10:37:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: takenoprisoner
LOL... yep a new economy will surface after we have a depression worst than that of 1929 by pushing 100's of thousands of small businesses out of business. Now tell me who is the President or the Congress who will do this and take that risk? NONE.

You guys live in a delusional world. Thanks the Lord that our President is realistic and real Leader.

319 posted on 06/01/2007 10:39:02 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Pelham

Aw, look another whiner that is ALWAYS going to find something to complain about. Not happy with your POTUS, I am sure you can bunk with Alec Baldwin when he leaves the country.


320 posted on 06/01/2007 10:39:32 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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