[HitmanLV]

Extreme is something that turns most people off because it is too draconian, impractical, or advocated by what come across as assholes.

So for example, the idea to shore up the borders could probably gain a lot of public support. How you go about it might alienate people. Alienate enough people and you don’t have the mandate anymore.

[EverOnward]

"Extreme is something that turns most people off because it is too draconian, impractical, or advocated by what come across as assholes.

So for example, the idea to shore up the borders could probably gain a lot of public support. How you go about it might alienate people. Alienate enough people and you don’t have the mandate anymore."

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Well, the amnesty bill comes off as extreme to most people and the way Bush is going about it is alienating the Republican base; therefore, Bush no longer has a "mandate." PLUS, Bush and his elitist pricks come off as assholes. Seems Bush fits the description of "extreme" to Americans who have no $$$ to gain from illegals.

It's no secret that Republicans (the historical party of the rich) have endured the conservatives simply to get elected. I'm willing to bet your definition of conservative differs from mine as well. Republicans see conservatives as right wing nut cases, while conservatives see themselves as hardworking, ethical, Americans who want to preserve a decent community for their children -- that Republican and liberal snobs are offended by this is sad.

I'm more than willing to part ways with the Republicans -- if only there were a party I could honestly identify with....