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Gun-toting teens alarm residents
spokesmanreview.com ^ | 05-31-07 | Hope Brumbach

Posted on 06/01/2007 1:26:08 PM PDT by em2vn

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To: napscoordinator

I do have a bit of a problem with a 15 year old carrying arms without adult supervision. Just from a legal standpoint, anyone under 18 is not an adult and generally can’t be held legally responsible for their actions. The “charged as an adult” exceptions are in cases where there was a very serious crime, with obvious criminal intent, and usually a long juvenile rap sheet as well. “I forgot to make sure it wasn’t loaded” or “I forgot to consider the backstop” don’t get you charged as an adult (nor should they). The right can reasonably be curtailed for a minor or mentally deficient person who cannot be held to the accompanying responsibilities.


61 posted on 06/01/2007 2:03:49 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: fr_freak

Sorry, but this IS a test.

City officials will ultimately decide on these kids right to walk down the street locked and loaded.

Or the public’s right to safety.


62 posted on 06/01/2007 2:07:14 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Global Warming is Leftist Theology - Why is it Being Taught in School?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
“I forgot to make sure it wasn’t loaded”

That's an easy one: EVERY gun is ALWAYS loaded.

First rule my kid was taught.

63 posted on 06/01/2007 2:07:46 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot
That's an easy one: EVERY gun is ALWAYS loaded.

yup.

64 posted on 06/01/2007 2:13:16 PM PDT by roamer_1
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To: Sybeck1

It’s the North Dakota of today.

Virtually every truck outside of a Metro Area has a gun in it. Usually in the passenger seat.

(And we don’t have many Metro Areas.)


65 posted on 06/01/2007 2:14:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (the Prophet said, If (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him. - HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260])
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To: roamer_1

I think in the country like I did would be great, but I am thinking more the mall or church. I just don’t think my parents would have accepted that. My kids will not carry them around like that either. Although they do hunt. We are from Pennsylvania after all. First Day of Hunting is a holy day here. lol.


66 posted on 06/01/2007 2:14:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Oh, there a .45 in mine right now. Here in Newer Fallujah (Memphis TN) its required!


67 posted on 06/01/2007 2:18:55 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: Little Bill

And to think that as a kid we boarded the bus with our rifles from the rifle team. We cleaned them at home.


68 posted on 06/01/2007 2:20:02 PM PDT by doodad
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To: napscoordinator
Hi napscoordinator,

I am thinking more the mall or church

I would agree in the sense that it may be bad ettiquette, especially in church- But I have worn a sidearm into stores/malls on numerous occasions. Particularly during hunting season.

-Bruce

69 posted on 06/01/2007 2:24:53 PM PDT by roamer_1
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To: napscoordinator
It would definitely be surprising to see a 15 year old walking around with a loaded weapons.

Then my childhood towns would have shocked you. We all had guns, our military fathers had guns, and summer was get on your bike and go plinking season. Ammo cost was our only discouragement.

70 posted on 06/01/2007 2:25:08 PM PDT by doodad
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To: doodad

Funny you mention military. I am in almost 20 years and we cannot carry one around on base at all. Don’t have one in your car either. Sound crazy??? It is amazing that is for sure.


71 posted on 06/01/2007 2:31:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: doodad

I remember, in Mass of all places, I used to bring my rifle to High School so I could go hunting Bambi in NH and Vermont over the Thanksgiving Holiday, LOL.


72 posted on 06/01/2007 2:32:25 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: fr_freak

Exactly.

“If you don’t know your rights, you don’t have any.”


73 posted on 06/01/2007 2:40:55 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I agree on the first part, but open carry is limited to a significant minority of states.


74 posted on 06/01/2007 2:41:52 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: em2vn

When I was a kid we’d walk around with rifles, no problem. The fact that these boys are getting such a hassle is proof of the unending wussification of America.


75 posted on 06/01/2007 2:42:05 PM PDT by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: MrB
The boys are protected by their state constitution. If the second amendment protected open carry, all states would have to allow it, correct?

A federal court would not hear this case. The second amendment protects against federal infringement, not state infringement.

76 posted on 06/01/2007 2:44:57 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: SittinYonder
"If the government wants to take away rights"

If they can take them away, that means they can give them back. But you said our rights were given to us by God.

Our rights are inherent. We the people decide which of these rights we will protect and to what extent.

77 posted on 06/01/2007 2:50:17 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Responsibility2nd

I understand what you are saying. Some of these “When we were kids” folks are being a bit disingenuous.

It was not uncommon to me and my friends walking down the street with rifles in the ‘80s in Louisiana, or any other kid for that matter. It was obvious we were going “hunting” for something. It was not uncommon for teenagers to have gun racks, complete with guns, in their trucks at the high school parking lot. That’s what they are made for.

I would have been quite unique, to say the least, to see a kid packing a sidearm at church or the local pizza place. I would not have trusted such a person even though I owned and frequently used numerous guns. Why would I not have trusted this person? It was blatantly out of the norm of accepted behavior in our little society. Just because you can do a thing does not mean you SHOULD do it.


78 posted on 06/01/2007 2:52:31 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: beltfed308
"How so? It's legal."

That's right. That's the attitude today -- if it's legal I can do it and don't you dare criticize me or impose your standards on me.

79 posted on 06/01/2007 2:52:32 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

“How so? It’s legal.”

That’s right. That’s the attitude today —

Yep, by that philosophy abortions should be encouraged. They are legal, after all.


80 posted on 06/01/2007 2:55:50 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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